# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380 "2022-09-28T11:33:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1822 "2023-02-03T18:32:05Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> if you choose to be different than the rest of the country, it ought to be your own responsibility to figure it out.

Not that random Arizonans or Indianans make that choice, but i do think they have to deal with it regularly and are much more likely to get the conversion right than i am. If i know I’m making plans with a person in a place that doesn’t do daylight savings time, and we’ve just recently changed, I’ll give the time and separately mention that “daylight savings time started up again last Sunday here”, or whatever.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1823 "2023-02-03T18:39:53Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Not that random Arizonans or Indianans make that choice, but i do think they have to deal with it regularly and are much more likely to get the conversion right than i am.

While this was the case for much of Indiana (the portion in the Eastern time zone) in the past, the entire state began observing DST in 2006.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1824 "2023-02-03T19:09:12Z")

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Right, the only states that currently don’t observe DST are Hawai’i and Arizona (except for the Navajo Nation).

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1825 "2023-02-03T19:10:53Z")

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The good parent/bad parent poll needs a separate mommy/daddy option.

mmm

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1826 "2023-02-03T19:42:31Z")

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The answer to ‘when I file my taxes’ varies considerably from year to year. I don’t think it’s ever been the minute I’ve got all the paperwork; but it’s been ‘somewhere inbetween’, ‘just before the due date’ and occasionally ‘whoops, better file for an extension’.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1827 "2023-02-03T20:09:32Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> ‘

I always owe taxes, sometimes a lot. I wait until 4/15 to file.

I don’t get extensions unless it’s necessary for paperwork reasons. You have to pay in April even if they give you more time to file.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1828 "2023-02-03T20:11:36Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I don’t get extensions unless it’s necessary for paperwork reasons. You have to pay in April even if they give you more time to file.

If you’re so broke you don’t expect to owe anything much, this is less of an issue.

But it’s mostly had to do either with paperwork reasons, or with something throwing my life for so much of a loop otherwise that this got put off.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1829 "2023-02-03T20:58:21Z")

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In the “Office” poll, I thought I was being pretty astute selecting Oscar.

Turns out there are a lot of astute folks 'round here.

mmm

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1830 "2023-02-03T21:04:51Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Arizona does not observe Daylight Saving Time

Yeah. Drove me crazy when my parents retired there.

ETA: I like Big Star. Not sure if they’re HOF-worthy, but I fell on the “worth it” side of the line.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1831 "2023-02-03T21:15:28Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> if you choose to be different than the rest of the country, it ought to be your own responsibility to figure it out.

But here, you are assuming that meetings take place amongst people within one country, whereas I used to have to schedule meetings that took place across several countries and not all countries switch at the same time the US does, if they switch at all. For me, it was important to make it clear that while the UK was on one schedule, we were on another. Yes, they have DST, but they implement it two weeks later than we in the U.S. do so for a for those two weeks schedules get confusing.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1832 "2023-02-03T21:27:45Z")

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I wish we’d go back to the original DST schedule.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1833 "2023-02-03T22:03:35Z")

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The federal DST schedule was changed about a dozen times between 1918 and 2007, not counting the plethora of local schedules used between 1945 and 1967. I doubt you’re remembering the 1918 schedule, so which one are you referring to as the “original” one?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1834 "2023-02-03T22:18:40Z")

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I’ve only heard of two of them. I suspect that they were all popular before I was born, though. And I wouldn’t be surprised if most people under 50 only know who Mott the Hoople is because “All the Young Dudes” was featured in **Clueless** …

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1835 "2023-02-04T04:13:21Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Wheelz](#):
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> > Arizona does not observe Daylight Saving Time
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> Yeah. Drove me crazy when my parents retired there.
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> ETA: I like Big Star. Not sure if they’re HOF-worthy, but I fell on the “worth it” side of the line.

Big Star is the only one I never heard of.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1836 "2023-02-04T04:37:35Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Big Star is the only one I never heard of.

Really a proto-indie darling, but it’s worth noting that their leader, Alex Chilton, provided the vocals for a song you do likely know, the Box Tops’ “The Letter”, when he was 16.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1837 "2023-02-04T05:29:26Z")

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My family dies young or lives forever. There is big generation creep in my tree. Since I was the youngest son of a youngest son my parents were closer in age to my friend’s grandparents than parents. Their fathers were Vietnam era and my father barely missed WWII. His parents were born in the 1880s. His mother died in the late 1930s. His father was alive until I was 9. My maternal grandfather died a few years before I was born. My grandmother lived to be 104. Started with 2 grandparents have none now.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1838 "2023-02-04T05:32:07Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > Big Star is the only one I never heard of.
> 
> Really a proto-indie darling, but it’s worth noting that their leader, Alex Chilton, provided the vocals for a song you do likely know, the Box Tops’ “The Letter”, when he was 16.

I checked a couple of songs on YouTube and I _really_ haven’t heard of them. Which is rare. I usually would at least remember hearing the song.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1839 "2023-02-04T12:53:02Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> I suspect that they were all popular before I was born…

So, you are aware of things that have only happened during your lifetime?

mmm

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1840 "2023-02-04T16:43:22Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> > [@elfkin477](#):
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> > I suspect that they were all popular before I was born…
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> So, you are aware of things that have only happened during your lifetime?

Seriously? It seems pretty noncontroversial to note that not being alive during a period when a band is popular would make you less likely to be aware of their existence. Someone born in the 70s would probably knw about the Beatles, but I wouldn’t expect them to be familiar with every band from the 60s. These particular bands were in the poll because they were listed as Hall of Fame worthy and I’ve never heard of any of them, despite probably being alive when they were “popular.”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-1/972380/1841 "2023-02-04T23:21:59Z")

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I am nightmare prone and I have PTSD related sleep disturbances so I am generally not enthusiastic about my dreams, but lately they’ve been fairly benign.

Last night I dreamed my husband’s grandmother gave me a check for $192,000. This is actually plausible. She was fawning all over me about what a great mother I am, which is less plausible.

When I woke up, I had that moment where I realized it wasn’t real, but then I was like, “Well, that’s all right.” I think my lack of disappointment points to my progress trying to become less worried about money and possessions.

I was telling my husband about the dream this morning, and a part I remembered… “There was a desk hidden under my desk. Like when you converted it to stand-up there was another desk under there… But that desk was somehow related to racial justice.”

Husband: “Fuckin’ social workers.”

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