# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 111
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2202 "2024-07-11T21:35:04Z")
I remember when I upgraded from a 1200 baud modem to a 9600 baud modem. It was so fast! You barely had time to go get a cup of coffee while the screen refreshed. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2203 "2024-07-11T22:49:41Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > I had a trainee fail to insert my IUD. > > Ouchie! It was extremely painful. But i have a high pain tolerance, and he aspired to being a family doctor, and ya gotta start somewhere. I think it was worth giving him a shot. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2204 "2024-07-11T22:52:17Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I had a good friend who was a phlebotomist, and it’s a real art. Luckily, I’m an easy stick, and at my doctor’s office, the blood draws are done by the specialists. Also, my sister said they had a patient once who _insisted_ that the doctor insert her IV. No amount of cajoling could get her to accept that he (and it was a he) was the worst person to have do that. Nurses do it _all_ the time. Doctors don’t. Yeah, definitely an art. My husband is an easy stick, and he lets trainees try. But I’m not and i don’t. And i push back when doctors offer. I’d much rather have someone who does it all the time, thanks. When i used to give blood I’d always request their most experienced phlebotomist. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2205 "2024-07-11T22:56:02Z")
How do you expect the mediocre ones to improve? I let the trainees stick me. I just warn them that my arm is uncooperative, and I make sure that the trainer is looking over their shoulder to supervise. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2206 "2024-07-11T23:52:46Z")
I haven’t seen _CODA_ but I’m somewhere in the middle of being generally aware and knowing a great deal about it. I’ve watched Emilia Jones sing the song at the end multiple times. I bought a Franklin Ace 1000 with paper route money and my high school had Trash 80s. That was my computer exposure in the early 80s. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2207 "2024-07-12T00:53:56Z")
My ex husband was a computer field engineer. We had a computer set up sometime mid 1980s. I’ve kept up with computers through their evolution but not with the ex husband. I have read about bidets and have stumbled across them even in the USA. I never felt comfortable splashing my nether regions unless I am in a full on shower. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2208 "2024-07-12T01:19:41Z")
I’ve used multiple forms of bidet, so I picked the one that seemed less common. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2209 "2024-07-12T01:51:44Z")
I’ve had a hotel room a couple of times that had a bidet, but I never used it. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2210 "2024-07-12T02:10:33Z")
I can’t answer the “crush” question without a clearer definition. Do people count if I’ve never met them and likely never will meet them, like movie stars? Do people count whom I’ve met but are inaccessible due to age or position, like teachers? Do people count if they are part of a normal relationship arc going from dating to falling in love to having a relationship, or does a “crush” require some feelings out of the norm for that kind of thing? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2211 "2024-07-12T02:23:25Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I’ve used multiple forms of bidet, so I picked the one that seemed less common. I’ve used multiple forms of bidet so i left that one blank. Either he’ll post a corrected poll or i won’t answer. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2212 "2024-07-12T02:28:24Z")
OK, I’ll throw up a multiple choice version. ETA: Done! FYI, the ‘hand sprayer’ option is quite ubiquitous in Thailand where I’ve spent multiple vacations. They look like this, though almost always there’s a holder/clip on the wall, not the toilet tank. I’ve considered getting this setup for home, seems more versatile than an aftermarket seat. [![](https://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00AHQonizqncbg/Water-Saving-Two-Function-Toilet-Hand-Sprayer-Shower-Healthy-Toilet-Faucet-Sprayer-Hand-Shower-Head-Bathroom-Bidet-Shataff-Toilet-Seat-Bidet-Sprayer.jpg) ](https://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00AHQonizqncbg/Water-Saving-Two-Function-Toilet-Hand-Sprayer-Shower-Healthy-Toilet-Faucet-Sprayer-Hand-Shower-Head-Bathroom-Bidet-Shataff-Toilet-Seat-Bidet-Sprayer.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2213 "2024-07-12T02:35:38Z")
Huh. Mysteriously, I still seem to be only able to pick one. No big deal though. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2214 "2024-07-12T02:36:08Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > How do you expect the mediocre ones to improve You don’t learn piano by starting with Beethoven ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2215 "2024-07-12T02:37:31Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Mysteriously, I still seem to be only able to pick one ARG! KHAAAAN! facepalm. New poll posted that @#$% works right. Sorry 😑 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2216 "2024-07-12T02:46:06Z")
Poll for discussion of the Discussion thread for the “Polls Only” thread. _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2216))_ ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2217 "2024-07-12T02:46:26Z")
I closed the broken one. And thanks. I haven’t used the hand sprayer, but i agree that it looks awfully handy. If be a little afraid of making a mess (or having kids who make a mess.) But i bet it’s also handy for odd tasks like rinsing blood out of underwear. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2218 "2024-07-12T02:50:48Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > > [@mbh](#): > > > > How do you expect the mediocre ones to improve > > You don’t learn piano by starting with Beethoven Right. I expect them to start with people who are easy to stick, like my husband. He’ll let newbies poke him. And someone who is especially sensitive to uterine pain or especially squeamish about being manhandled shouldn’t have to have an inexperienced man attempt to insert an IUD. We all have things we are more or less willing to put up with. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2219 "2024-07-12T02:52:12Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > If be a little afraid of making a mess There is that. The ones I’ve used are like a kitchen sprayer: press a little and get light spray, press a lot and you can hit the ceiling. You can mess up until you gain expertise. Those Thai bathrooms I’ve been in are generally all tile with a drain in the floor, so no biggie below like forehead level spray. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > Squeegee now looks like a bidet enthusiast I’ve never actually used a bidet. Just wondering how many have. You run into legit enthusiasts on this board sometimes, it’s kinda weird. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2220 "2024-07-12T02:56:57Z")
I’m a bidet enthusiast. But i bet the hand sprayer would work just as well. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2221 "2024-07-12T03:07:09Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’m a bidet enthusiast Sorry, didn’t mean to make fun. But I’ve never understood how you use the standalone model, the ones next to the toilet that are toilet shaped. What’s the procedure? [![](https://static.vecteezy.com/system/resources/previews/012/252/934/large_2x/white-toilet-with-bowl-drain-and-bidet-photo.jpg) ](https://static.vecteezy.com/system/resources/previews/012/252/934/large_2x/white-toilet-with-bowl-drain-and-bidet-photo.jpg) - OK, I poop in the toilet, got it. - I move my messy butt over to the bidet and squat (there appears to be no seat). - Open some sort of plumbing valve, spray my ass and whatever else. - OK, so where does the poopy stuff go? The bidet drain is tiny! Do I move back to the toilet? Or do I leave brown everywhere on the bidet and have a housekeeping chore? How does this improve my life? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=110) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=112)