# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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I know I experienced at least one go-around, but it was ages ago, and I’ve forgotten all the details.

We made tacos often when I was growing up. Definitely American style. Now, when I make tacos, I’m more likely to make ones closer to Mexican style. Although I do get cravings for those old fried corn tortilla ground beef tacos of my youth.

I’ll also have to admit to having some disappointment that Trump survived. Not proud. Just honest.

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I’m glad to know that my household and I aren’t bad people - or at least that we’re in good company. I’m firmly anti-assassination, but I can’t help feeling a tad wistful.

Back in the day (pre-2000?), it seems like flights coming into the Albuquerque airport used to have to do the go-around relatively often when the wind was gusty. I don’t know if it’s because they built the new runway at a better angle or for some other reason, but that doesn’t seem to be as frequent a problem nowadays.

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Not sure if it counts as a “go around” but I was flying to Boston and they were backed up for landing spots for some reason. We just kept flying around in circles, with the pilot occasionally apologizing for the delay.

This was long ago. Do things like that still occur today?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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Do we get an explanation of the cartoon?

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It looks like a cybertruck. He’s dissing Elon, I assume.

> [@Loach](#):
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> But if you wait 15 minutes the cat tries to eat it.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I didn’t know you were in my kitchen!

Or a cheese shop…

> [@kayaker](#):
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> Those who did not pick Yamal,you’ve never seen him play, right? Right?

Seen him (and old tapes of Pele and Maradona). There’s a reason Pele is a freaking legend. Maybe Yamal will get there. But he’s not there yet.

Also, every time someone says “Lamine Yamal” it starts a “Lion Sleeps Tonight” earworm going in my head.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2307 "2024-07-16T17:27:46Z")

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Never had a go-around but got close once.

I worked for an airline where you could get cheap travel on a stand-by basis. The flight was full but the Captain allowed me to go in the spare seat in the cockpit (pre 911 not sure if it is allowed now). Anyway, Heathrow was extremely busy as usual and ATC brought us in very close to the plane in front. The flight crew put down flaps and gear very early to slow us down, we were very low when the plane in front cleared the runway (my understanding is you can’t touch the runway if another plane is on it). Only indication anything was up from the back would be the early flapps and gear.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2308 "2024-07-16T17:54:53Z")

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What on earth is a “man-to-man” way of brushing one’s teeth?

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2309 "2024-07-16T18:09:24Z")

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Two men stand very close, and each brushes the other’s teeth.

Duh.

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It feels like a sports analogy of some sort, but I don’t know enough about sports to understand how it would apply in the context of brushing one’s teeth.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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I was thinking one tooth at a time, vs broad sweeping strokes. But just a guess.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2312 "2024-07-16T23:06:16Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Not sure if it counts as a “go around” but I was flying to Boston and they were backed up for landing spots for some reason. We just kept flying around in circles, with the pilot occasionally apologizing for the delay.
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> This was long ago. Do things like that still occur today?

It likely does.

The time we did a definite “go around”, I was on a plane landing at San Francisco. The plane started to descent, then started to ascend. The pilot got on the PA and said that traffic control had identified another plane - on the runway, or on the same path, or something, and our flight had to re-ascend.

One other time, which may not count: I was flying from National Airport (DC area) to LaGuardia on a Sunday night. Weather was not great, and we took off later than usual. We flew for a bit, then started descending, at about the time we would have been landing at Laguardia.

But they anounced that even though they had been given permission to take off, once they got up, the controllers decided the weather between there and NY was too risky for flying - so we had to return to the departing airport.

Only… by that time, we’d passed the curfew for landings at National Airport - so we landed at BWI, and they bussed us back to National.

I wound up taking one of the early morning shuttles (anyone else remember PanAm / Trump shuttles? they were the only DCA-to-LGU flights, and were a lot more money on business days). They did not charge me the Monday-morning price, at least - just gave me a seat on the first flight.

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> It feels like a sports analogy of some sort, but I don’t know enough about sports to understand how it would apply in the context of brushing one’s teeth.

Yup, I read it as a football reference. Broadly, there are two types of defensive styles which American (gridiron) football teams use when covering potential pass receivers:

- In “man-to-man,” the defense has one particular player assigned to cover each receiver; that defender will then stick close to his receiver as the play runs.
- In “zone,” the defense assigns players to cover particular areas (“zones”) of the field, and each player has the primary responsibility for defending against a pass thrown to a receiver in his assigned zone.

I interpreted the question as “man-to-man” being a style of brushing in which one would spend time brushing each individual tooth, whereas a “zone” would be a back-and-forth across a set of teeth (upper left, upper right, etc.).

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Not sure if it counts as a “go around” but I was flying to Boston and they were backed up for landing spots for some reason. We just kept flying around in circles, with the pilot occasionally apologizing for the delay.

They do. I live near DFW airport, and sometimes on clear nights you can see the lines of planes waiting to land

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@WildaBeast](#):
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> > It feels like a sports analogy of some sort, but I don’t know enough about sports to understand how it would apply in the context of brushing one’s teeth.
> 
> Yup, I read it as a football reference. Broadly, there are two types of defensive styles which American (gridiron) football teams use when covering potential pass receivers:
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> - In “man-to-man,” the defense has one particular player assigned to cover each receiver; that defender will then stick close to his receiver as the play runs.
> - In “zone,” the defense assigns players to cover particular areas (“zones”) of the field, and each player has the primary responsibility for defending against a pass thrown to a receiver in his assigned zone.
> 
> I interpreted the question as “man-to-man” being a style of brushing in which one would spend time brushing each individual tooth, whereas a “zone” would be a back-and-forth across a set of teeth (upper left, upper right, etc.).

More likely basketball

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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@Karen_Lingel, would you like to come in and tell us what your poll means?

– The 9/11 attacks led to some people attacking, verbally and/or physically, fellow American citizens who they thought looked like they might be Muslim. I don’t consider that to be “united”. I don’t suppose the American citizens of Japanese descent who wound up locked up in camps felt very united, either.

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Maybe “brush your teeth” is a euphemism for some bizarre sporting activity.

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I brush my teeth by tackling Special Teams first, then I tackle the Offensive front line, Offensive back line, Defensive back line, then Defensive front line, in that order.

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I haven’t the faintest idea which would be which; except that maybe the back ones would be teeth further back in the mouth and front ones would be teeth towards the front of the mouth. I think my teeth are all equally defensive or offensive as the case may be. And they’re certainly equally Special.

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Yes, it would be a very bad idea to have Trump be the only one who could declare a nuclear strike. But it doesn’t really help matters to have Putin and North Korea be able to do so also; or quite possibly a random terrorist group somewhere.

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> I brush my teeth by tackling Special Teams first, then I tackle the Offensive front line, Offensive back line, Defensive back line, then Defensive front line, in that order.

Uhhh? Care to translate that into English?

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