# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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My wife frequently sends back “flat” vodka sodas. For food, I frankly can’t remember anything not being done correctly, or close enough. (I do get condiments on burgers despite asking for none, but I’ll deal with it.)

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2463 "2024-07-23T16:24:02Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I put shampoo in my hair, then soap my body while the shampoo’s holding my hair up out of the way, then rinse both hair and body off simultaneously. There wasn’t an “other” option.

Aside from “holding hair out of the way”… that’s me. Shampoo first. Then the hair can begin its rinse cycle while using soap elsewhere. My hair is long enough that rinsing can take a while, any other approach would be more wasteful than needed.

The poll should also have had a step for applying conditioner (for those who use such).

Shampoo.  
Soap body/rinse hair.  
Apply conditioner / rinse.  
One last soap / rinse to wash face / get residual conditioner off of neck.

Wedding rings: until COVID, I tended to wear them all day but take them off at night / when showering/swimming/other non-ring-friendly activities. With COVID, and the somewhat obsessive hand-washing, I stopped wearing them, and now it’s “almost never”.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2464 "2024-07-23T16:24:35Z")

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It’s “Looney Tunes” (as in songs not cartoon characters).

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2465 "2024-07-23T16:33:54Z")

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Yes.

> **[What’s the difference between a Looney Tune and a Merrie Melody?](https://www.straightdope.com/21342205/what-s-the-difference-between-a-looney-tune-and-a-merrie-melody)**

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2466 "2024-07-23T16:35:55Z")

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Annnd even the cartoon that goes with the Cecil article has the same typo in the first words there, in BOTH titles… 🙄

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2467 "2024-07-23T16:36:58Z")

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> Would you do business with someone who cites John 3:16 in every public and private communication?

Hell no. I’m an atheist. Don’t want my business? Fine with me. (and no idea what John 3:16 means, nor do want to look it up)

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2468 "2024-07-23T16:39:01Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> and no idea what John 3:16 means, nor do want to look it up

It’s a Bible verse (Gospel of John, chapter 3, verse 16), and probably the most widely-cited single verse among Christians, particularly those of an evangelical bent, as it encapsulates the core of Christian faith:

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> For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2469 "2024-07-23T16:39:35Z")

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It’s also something you see being held up on signs at sports events. John 3:16 is “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

And Matthew 6:5-8 is “5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.”

Which is a smackdown of the sort of people waving those signs around. Hell, now I want to go to a baseball game and hold up a “Matthew 6:5-8” sign.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2470 "2024-07-23T16:40:21Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> and no idea what John 3:16 means, nor do want to look it up

> **[John 3:16](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16)**
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> John 3:16 is the sixteenth verse in the third chapter of the Gospel of John, one of the four gospels in the New Testament. It is deemed one of the most popular verses from the Bible and is a summary of one of Christianity's central doctrines; the relationship between the Father (God) and the Son of God (Jesus). Particularly famous among evangelical Protestants, the verse has been frequently referenced by the Christian media and figures.
> In the King James Version, it reads:
> For God so loved t...

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2471 "2024-07-23T16:40:43Z")

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It’s like the Biblical version of “Rio” by Duran Duran.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2472 "2024-07-23T16:44:39Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> It’s a Bible verse (Gospel of John, chapter 3, verse 16), and probably the most widely-cited single verse among Christians, particularly those of an evangelical bent, as it encapsulates the core of Christian faith:

I guess my view is that if someone actually believes that “God” “gave his one and only son” to the world, to somehow give us “eternal life,” I don’t trust their judgment enough to hire them. Especially if they are trying to convince others of that idea.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
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This kind of attitude looks like religious bigotry to me, akin to refusing to do business with Jews or Muslims.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2474 "2024-07-23T16:50:41Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> akin to refusing to do business with Jews or Muslims.

I’d probably also steer clear of Jews or Muslims (or LDS) who publicly proclaimed their religious tenets in advertising materials. It seems (to me) as a real character flaw. I don’t respect religious beliefs. Should I?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> (I do get condiments on burgers despite asking for none, but I’ll deal with it.)

If i bothered to request they leave off a condiment, it means i won’t eat the dish with that condiment on it. So yes, I’m sending it back.

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I might buy a product from someone who cited John 3:16, because what the hell, if they bake a good cake i will eat their cake. But I’d be anxious about hiring them to do a service, because they wouldn’t approve of atheist me.

I don’t think that’s bigoted of me. I think you shouldn’t push your religion or your politics on your business partners, unless you are close enough to them to know they are okay with it. I’ve worked for an evangelical Christian. I’ve worked with a devout Mormon. I’ve worked for a Hindu. Those are all fine. None of then pushed their religion on me, though.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2477 "2024-07-23T17:41:45Z")

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As long as we’re discussing this, [Cecil on the John 3:16 guy](https://www.straightdope.com/21341631/what-s-with-those-john-3-16-signs-that-people-hold-up-at-football-games) and [how he ended up in prison](https://www.straightdope.com/21342023/is-the-guy-who-held-up-those-john-3-16-signs-at-sports-events-in-jail-for-life).

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2478 "2024-07-23T19:42:38Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I might buy a product from someone who cited John 3:16, because what the hell, if they bake a good cake i will eat their cake. But I’d be anxious about hiring them to do a service, because they wouldn’t approve of atheist me.

It would also depend on their attitude otherwise, if I knew or could find out about that. If they just want to tell me they’re Christian, OK. If they want to tell me that I must be also, not OK.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2479 "2024-07-23T19:57:20Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> This kind of attitude looks like religious bigotry to me, akin to refusing to do business with Jews or Muslims

Believe whatever nonsense you want, share it with me in a business setting and I’m taking my business elsewhere.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2480 "2024-07-23T20:15:07Z")

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I just came home from a visit to southern Virginia. On the trip home I saw a pizza truck with all kinds of religious nonsense of the back which really turned me off. Apparently they also put bible verses on their pizza boxes although I cannot verify this.

Regardless, I do not want to be manipulated by anyone’s religion when conducting business. Be a professional and keep your beliefs on your home turf - not deep into your business. This is one pizza place I would stay away from.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2481 "2024-07-23T20:16:29Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s like the Biblical version of “Rio” by Duran Duran.

I’m calling it. You win the internet for today.

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