# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 125
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2482 "2024-07-23T20:18:04Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > As long as we’re discussing this, [Cecil on the John 3:16 guy](https://www.straightdope.com/21341631/what-s-with-those-john-3-16-signs-that-people-hold-up-at-football-games) and [how he ended up in prison](https://www.straightdope.com/21342023/is-the-guy-who-held-up-those-john-3-16-signs-at-sports-events-in-jail-for-life). Wow, I had completely forgotten about that. And his less than glorious end happened locally even. I can now remember seeing the hotel siege on the local news. I tend to steer clear of _anybody_ preaching at me. I saw through all that when I was in elementary school, and now it’s hyper annoying. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2483 "2024-07-23T20:23:54Z")
I really dont care- what I care about is the quality , prices, etc. If someone had that bible verse- but their prices and quality were better- I would go with tham. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2484 "2024-07-23T20:36:40Z")
For someone who advertises with Bible verses, I went with “depends”. _All else being equal_ I’d probably choose another business, but that’s rarely the case. Cost, ease of access, lack of alternates, and of course, the _degree_ of preachyness will all contribute. My only recent direct example is with my default Chinese delivery/carry out option, a place called Overseas 101, which has a reasonably large Cross directly next to the name on the menu, and a message “Jesus Loves You” below the name. But, that’s it. They don’t preach to you, they don’t otherwise talk about it in any way, it’s just on the menu (In person and takeout). It’s the only Chinese place in delivery range, and while it’s a terribly typical strip-mall take out place, it’s _fine_ if you’re just craving a quick shrimp-fried-rice and it’s directly on my way home for work. But since I’m a good cook, I order once or twice a year at most. By comparison, there’s another place, a bit further away, a bit harder to get in and out of, and a bit pricier, but with better food, so nearly a net wash. If it’s NOT delivery, and it’s not take out _on the way home_, then they’re what I choose the rest of the time. So again, depends. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2485 "2024-07-23T21:02:07Z")
I chose _Loony Tunes_, _Animaniacs_, and the _Pink Panther_. The actual best song, _[Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e7_oVqDAjs)_ was not on the list. I would do business with a Bible-thumper, but I would pepper my correspondence with references to Matthew 6:5, Ezekiel 23:20, and 1 Samuel 25:22. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2486 "2024-07-23T22:11:46Z")
**Peter Gunn** should be in the top ten TV show themes. It’s Henry Mancini, ferchrissakes. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2487 "2024-07-24T01:13:55Z")
The Kray Brothers had a movie made about them in the late eighties. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2488 "2024-07-24T01:24:48Z")
I had a friend who had met them socially (story chronicled here: [The little-known story of how the notorious Kray twins made a huge donation to the Aberfan appeal - Wales Online](https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/kray-twins-ronnie-reggie-aberfan-20784743)). ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2489 "2024-07-24T01:42:27Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > The Kray Brothers had a movie made about them in the late eighties. Probably the only reason I know about the Kray brothers is because of the trivia that they were played by Gary and Martin Kemp of the band Spandau Ballet in that movie. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2490 "2024-07-24T01:50:25Z")
They were also dramatically portrayed as “The Piranha Brothers” on a BBC TV show. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2491 "2024-07-24T01:52:31Z")
A slightly different take on the John 3:16 question, as a Christian. My reading of the [Cleansing of the temple story](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple) is that people were using their religion and by extension God, to make money. And that really pissed off Jesus. As far as I am concerned, any business that makes a big deal of how Christian they are is doing the same thing ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2492 "2024-07-24T08:06:12Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > When I was about 8, my parents gave me the _John Denver’s Greatest Hits_ LP as a Christmas present; I played that album – and that song, in particular, to death. I think we’re about the same age. My parents bought that album and then recorded it on a cassette which I was allowed to play. It, plus Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, Barbara Streisand, Cleo Laine, and the soundtrack from Man of La Mancha, is the soundtrack of my childhood. > [@Gyrate](#): > > No reason why not to. John Denver + The Muppet Show = smiles ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2493 "2024-07-24T10:42:02Z")
I know absolutely zero British criminals. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2494 "2024-07-24T12:40:49Z")
I read a lot of true crime stories so I’ve likely heard the stories but I couldn’t necessarily match them to names. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2495 "2024-07-24T17:04:12Z")
The crime poll made me realize I have a disturbing amount of knowledge about British criminals. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2496 "2024-07-24T17:28:29Z")
> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#): > > Cleo Laine And here I thought I was her only fan on these boards. Or anywhere, really. Her recording of “Porgy and Bess” with Ray Charles is definitive. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2497 "2024-07-24T17:56:25Z")
Ronnie Biggs has been depicted in various movies and even a TV miniseries, though I’m not sure how popular they were outside Britain. (Has anyone here besides me watched _Mrs. Biggs_?) He might perhaps be better known internationally through his association with the Sex Pistols, or rather what was left of them following the departure of Johnny Rotten. He sang on one of their singles, and the lyrics prominently mention some of the other British criminals in the poll. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2498 "2024-07-24T17:58:10Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I know absolutely zero British criminals. What, not even Jack the Ripper? Or even fictional ones like Fagin and James Moriarty? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2499 "2024-07-24T18:03:18Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > And here I thought I was her only fan on these boards. Or anywhere, really. > > Her recording of “Porgy and Bess” with Ray Charles is definitive. Her husband John Dankworth was likewise an incredible jazz artist. And of course their kids are in the biz too. > [@psychonaut](#): > > Ronnie Biggs has been depicted in various movies and even a TV miniseries, though I’m not sure how popular they were outside Britain. (Has anyone here besides me watched _Mrs. Biggs_?) He might perhaps be better known internationally through his association with the Sex Pistols, or rather what was left of them following the departure of Johnny Rotten. He sang on one of their singles, and the lyrics prominently mention some of the other British criminals in the poll. The Krays have likewise appeared in various films, including _Legend_ with Tom Hardy playing both twins. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2500 "2024-07-24T18:03:24Z")
The only British criminals in the poll that I’d heard of were the Kray brothers, and that was likely due to films (not sure if it was _The Krays_ or _Legend_). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2501 "2024-07-24T18:25:06Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > What, not even Jack the Ripper? Or even fictional ones like Fagin and James Moriarty? Well, the ones mentioned in the poll were total strangers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=124) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=126)