# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2502 "2024-07-24T18:37:51Z")

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I prefer to have both the moral high ground **and** to be victorious. Otherwise I would need a lot more information before choosing one or the other.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2503 "2024-07-24T18:51:05Z")

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While I agree that in the best of all worlds, to have both the moral high ground and win, I accept that in the real world I may not have that luxury. Thus, on any topic _important_ enough for me to need to win AND worry about morality, I’ll take the “win”. Being a semi-moral person, I can then use the results of the winning, from the smallest scale (unlikely to be important, but what have you) to the largest (politics) and compensate for my guilt by striving to do what’s best and to compensate for any moral failings to the other party within reason.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2504 "2024-07-24T18:57:10Z")

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The “morality” of a situation can be questionable. I’d need to know more specifics about the situation.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2505 "2024-07-24T19:00:47Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I prefer to have both the moral high ground **and** to be victorious. Otherwise I would need a lot more information before choosing one or the other.

Yup.

What am I losing and winning? $2? Who has to do the dishes? My best friend’s life?

And what sort of moral high ground? Stealing $2? Behaving according to somebody else’s idea of proper sexual behavior? Killing somebody?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2506 "2024-07-24T19:30:59Z")

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Making me choose between puppies and kittens is cruel.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2507 "2024-07-24T19:41:43Z")

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It was weird, I reached for puppies, then suddenly my finger veered to kittens and clicked it. 😅

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2508 "2024-07-24T19:56:13Z")

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Then choose baby ferrets and you’ll get the best of both worlds.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2509 "2024-07-24T20:15:26Z")

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I would LOVE that. Do you need my address for delivery?

I will cuddle / play with ANY mammal I can (i.e. not if it won’t let me / will hurt me / will be harmed), barring humans, where I am slightly more selective.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2510 "2024-07-24T20:33:09Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Making me choose between puppies and kittens is cruel.

Yep. Kittens are cuter, but puppies are more fun. Having raised kittens, I chose them.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2511 "2024-07-24T20:45:33Z")

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I picked kittens; but puppies are a close second. I’ve never gotten to know a ferret well, but presuming that the kits are socialized to humans I’d be quite willing to play with them also.

How about we get to play with a mix of kittens, puppies, and ferret kits, all of them also playing with each other?

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2512 "2024-07-24T22:34:25Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> Ronnie Biggs has been depicted in various movies and even a TV miniseries, though I’m not sure how popular they were outside Britain.

He was the only one on the list that I didn’t know anything about. I know _way_ more about Fred and Rose West than I want to. Wish I could expunge them from my memory.

I saw Cleo Laine at the Hollywood Bowl ages ago. I love her.

I prefer puppies because they’re, for me, more interactive and responsive. And they play longer in my experience.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2513 "2024-07-25T01:10:24Z")

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I have cats at home, and puppies are much less… pointy. So puppies.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2514 "2024-07-25T02:23:20Z")

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It should be borne in mind that I very often don’t know who people are. Whether or not they’re criminals.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2515 "2024-07-25T02:24:07Z")

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Yeah, i don’t remember names. I answered those polls, but wondered if i should have disqualified myself and left them all blank.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2516 "2024-07-25T02:26:57Z")

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As for anchovies… Neither “nothing special” nor “i like them and have it all the time” works. It’s … definitely special. And sometimes I’m in the mood for that kind of special, and even have anchovies as an option. Most of the time at least one of those is false. Most of the places around here don’t do anchovies, and anyway, my husband won’t eat them. And even if they are available, I’m not always in the mood.

But “nothing special”? That is such a wrong description of anchovies on pizza.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2517 "2024-07-25T02:35:07Z")

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Here’s the quote that inspired the anchovies poll, from a NYT article, “How Kamala Harris took Command of the Democratic Party in 48 Hours”:  
“On Sunday at the Naval Observatory, her team had worked into the night, ordering pizza and salad from Andy’s, a local Washington, D.C., chain, with anchovies on the vice president’s pizza.”

It was a great article, but this little detail really had me cheering. I’ve heard too many anchovy haters putting down an ingredient that’s been loved for millenia. Somewhere I have a recipe for lamb with rosemary and anchovies, supposedly inspired by the ancient Romans.

And @puzzlegal the choice I gave was “Yummy! Delicious! I’ve eaten it many times” and not “I have it all the time”. Yes, I’m an anchovy lover, but I don’t have it all the time and agree there are other good pizza choices out there.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2518 "2024-07-25T02:43:50Z")

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I don’t like anchovies enough to say, “Yummy! Delicious! I’ve eaten it many times”. But i sometimes enjoy them, and never would say “meh”. I guess i think they are polarizing even for my own tastes, in that i sometimes like them and sometimes really don’t want something that forward.

And I’ve only had them a couple of times, because i almost never have the option.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2519 "2024-07-25T02:54:59Z")

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Anchovies? _Fantastic_ on caesar salad. I sorta like them on pizza- if a friend orders a "chovy pizza I will offer to trade slices. But one slice is all i want.

FYI- do not ever EVER order a half "chovy and anything else pizza. Both halves will taste of anchovies.

I dont look down upon “chovy pizza eaters like I do hawaiian pizza. Pineapple does not belong on pizza. In fact i sorta admire” chovy pizza eaters.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2520 "2024-07-25T03:02:54Z")

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I’m not sure I’ve ever even _seen_ anchovies on pizza. For all I know, the idea could be an urban legend.

Yeah, I bet if I looked, it wouldn’t be hard to find a place that offers anchovy pizza. But I have no motivation to do so.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/2521 "2024-07-25T03:07:17Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Yeah, I bet if I looked, it wouldn’t be hard to find a place that offers anchovy pizza. But I have no motivation to do so.

The taste is salty and the smell is fishy. Not a mild topping. It overpowers anything else. I do like a slice now and then.

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