# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4562 "2024-11-24T00:02:08Z")

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Huh? Yeah, it does.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4563 "2024-11-24T00:05:42Z")

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I’m curious if any white person here has been called a “cracker” in the last 30 years. Or ever

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4564 "2024-11-24T00:13:35Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> very darky colored

Bad typo! Bad!

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4565 "2024-11-24T00:18:54Z")

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I heard it used about other people, for example, while working as a therapist within the last few years. And not jocularly.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4566 "2024-11-24T00:54:35Z")

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“Cracker” was certainly used as an epithet in the past, and while I haven’t heard it in a while, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s still being used. But the allegations about Cracker Barrel management could use some evidence.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4567 "2024-11-24T01:02:05Z")

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Oh, ouch! I apologize for that typo.

I don’t associate “cracker barrel” with “white crackers”, fwiw. Neither the restaurant nor the brand of cheese.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4568 "2024-11-24T01:05:22Z")

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The Cracker Barrel argument is nonsensical - cracker as both an adjective and noun has tons of uses that have nothing to do with the derogatory usage, and its usage by the company is clearly documented. ‘Blackie’ is a singular nickname that coincides with a derogatory term. It’s like comparing ravens and writing desks.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4569 "2024-11-24T01:14:50Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> As for dances- In the Blues Brothers, Ray Charles does **Shake a Tail Feather** , which has many of those.

That is in fact, exactly where I got my list. I asked ChatGPT to list the dances in that scene. For some reason it omitted The Boogaloo, which is mentioned also.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4570 "2024-11-24T01:24:02Z")

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[https://www.google.com/search?q=cracker+barrel+racism&oq=cracker+barrel+racism&gs\_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDAgAEEUYORjHAxiABDILCAEQABgWGB4YxwPSAQkxMDEwOGowajeoAhSwAgE&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8](https://www.google.com/search?q=cracker+barrel+racism&oq=cracker+barrel+racism&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDAgAEEUYORjHAxiABDILCAEQABgWGB4YxwPSAQkxMDEwOGowajeoAhSwAgE&client=tablet-android-samsung-nf-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8)

They have cleaned up their overt racism.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4571 "2024-11-24T01:37:32Z")

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I had hoped that would get the link magic, but it didn’t

[https://www.sanfordheisler.com/case/discrimination-harassment/cracker-barrel-race-discrimination-class-action/](https://www.sanfordheisler.com/case/discrimination-harassment/cracker-barrel-race-discrimination-class-action/)

> **[Cracker Barrel Employees Use 'Code Word' for Black Customers: Ex-Hostess](https://www.newsweek.com/cracker-barrel-employees-use-code-word-black-customers-ex-hostess-1692077)**
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> The "code word" was also referenced by a Texas district attorney allegedly used it to refer to Black jurors—though the DA insisted he didn't mean it that way.

Although sometimes it’s the customers

> **['Cracker Barrel has fallen' becomes a meme as restaurant supports Pride Month](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/06/09/cracker-barrel-has-fallen-pride-month/)**
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> Right-wingers are raging and overreacting again, this time over US restaurant chain Cracker Barrel sharing its support for Pride Month.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4572 "2024-11-24T01:50:05Z")

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Yes, Cracker Barrel (the restaurant chain) has an established history of bigoted behavior, by both management and employees.

AFAIK, there’s no clear link between the restaurant’s name and the term “cracker” being a derogatory term for white people, or any evidence that the chain’s founders chose the name intentionally to somehow “own” that. Coincidence, at most, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4573 "2024-11-24T02:40:25Z")

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I wasn’t trying to say that. And I’m sorry I wrote something that was so completely misunderstood. (Common ADHD thing… I understood how what I said worked according to my brain)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4574 "2024-11-24T03:14:35Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> It’s like comparing ravens and writing desks.

Why is a raven like a writing desk?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4575 "2024-11-24T03:17:47Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> ‘Blackie’ is a singular nickname that coincides with a derogatory term.

Only it’s not a singular nickname. It’s an incredibly common nickname for black animals, following a common naming convention. I’ve heard it for lots of animals, and while I’m not surprised that it’s used on a derogatory way for people, today is the first time I’ve actually heard of that usage.

I’m not invested in using that name, and i don’t like using words that offend people. So I won’t name anything “Blackie” going forward. But it still just sounds like a “descriptive”-y childish name to me.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4576 "2024-11-24T03:25:24Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Only it’s not a singular nickname.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear - I meant its use is only as a nickname, it doesn’t have all those other uses like ‘cracker’ does.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Why is a raven like a writing desk?

Neither one has been in my kitchen.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4577 "2024-11-24T05:40:34Z")

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Because Poe wrote on both.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4578 "2024-11-24T11:35:24Z")

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(applause)

mmm

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4579 "2024-11-24T13:31:17Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I couldn’t remember the name of the place, but I knew some professional ball team did their “spring” training in the area and stayed there. That piece of data was about the fourth item in my google search – The Dallas Cowboys.

Residence Inn - my daughter lives down the street from that place. There is a golf club next door. Maybe the Cowboys shoulda spent more time this past training camp on football. 😂

Regarding the waffles, my MIL got one of the flip-over waffle irons, like you see at hotels, for some reason. When we were getting ready to sell her house, she said we could take anything, and that was one thing she gave us. Bulky, but brand new and it does make a good waffle!

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4580 "2024-11-24T14:06:07Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Why is a raven like a writing desk?

> **[Why is a raven like a writing desk?](https://www.straightdope.com/21342321/why-is-a-raven-like-a-writing-desk)**

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/4581 "2024-11-24T22:01:17Z")

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On the subject of slurs…

> **[The Offenders](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-offenders/)**
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> The Perry Bible Fellowship

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