# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> I do miss movies that end with “The End”, and either no credits or a quick list of cast members instead of 10 minutes of credit roll, including “Honeywagon Driver”, whatever that is. (You know who hates that? Theater owners.)

A big part of this is because, in the past, most of the people who worked on a film _didn’t_ get mention in the credits, which is kind of unfair. That’s changed, and IMO, the fact that movie credits do give credit to everyone who worked on it is a feature, not a bug…and there’s nothing preventing you from leaving (or fast-forwarding) if you don’t care.

Also, many modern movies have significant amounts of special effects and CGI, which means that they have, literally, hundreds of people working on that part of the production alone.

More than you probably wanted to know on the topic:

> **[When did movie credits get so long? - Marketplace](https://www.marketplace.org/2022/12/09/when-did-movie-credits-get-so-long/)**
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> Some early Hollywood films didn’t even list the actors.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
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If I’m not mistaken, there are usually contracts that **require** the movie to list credits for people who participated. The producers **can’t** omit them.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
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**Mrs Magill** and I didn’t date so much as hang out with each other at the bar her sister worked at. She and I would trade off paying for our food.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
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I’ve always hated formal dating. I’m not going to insult you by saying you can’t pay your share. I’ve never been with anyone who didn’t have a job, often a more grown up job than me. Typically I’d just meet people in bars and if we hit it off we’d hang out some more and maybe it would lead to something. I don’t know if I’ve been on date where I’ve been expected to pay for everything in my life.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/486 "2024-03-16T21:03:30Z")

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The man (me) spent WAY more. The only time this wasn’t the case was with my last girlfriend before my current wife. It was closer to even with her but she made twice what I did.

For the party question I put something else. I can’t really see myself going to a party that wasn’t friends of mine. I don’t know anyone who has been on either show so I wouldn’t go to either party. Maybe I would go to a stranger party if it was a charity fundraiser but then it would be about the charity and not the attendees. Or maybe a post Oscar party filled with the ultra famous so I can people watch.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/487 "2024-03-16T21:11:55Z")

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I did most of my dating in college. Not having a car in high school, and being a major geek / nerd / dork being the main reasons, rather than lack of interest.

In college (and for me this would be early to mid 90s) most of our dating was on campus, so yeah, neither side spent much if any money. The few off campus dates I had I voted that I paid more, but it was mostly because we generally agreed each would pay their own share and I’d often buy more substantial food.

Ocassionaly one or the other would “treat” the other which I remember doing somewhat, but not a great deal more of (60/40 or something close). But I only dated 3 women during my college years, the third of which is the one I’ve lived together with (and later married) ever since.

So my dating experience is probably far less typical, and is absolutely only tied to a very short period of years.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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I wouldn’t decide whether to go to the party according to what game show, if any, the other potential attendees had done well at. I’d decide based on a combination of: who I knew who was going to the party, whether I wanted to get to know (for some other reason, their having won on a show wouldn’t be a reason) any of the people who were going to the party, whether I was expected to wear clothes I haven’t got, where the party was, whether it was on a day I could take the time to go to a party, whether a good friend of mine was trying to get me to go with them, and possibly whether there would be cats present and/or interesting books I could go off and read.

Voted other.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
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On a date, I always picked up the check. If she wanted to reciprocate I’d enjoy having her prepare a meal for us. I guess I’m old fashioned, I’d feel funny about a woman picking up the check.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
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Ketchup? I like ketchup. I put it on lots of things which sometimes bothers my gf. (I made this lovely whatever and your putting ketchup on it?)

Of course it has to be Heinz, or alternatively a house-made tomato chutney kinda deal.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/491 "2024-03-16T21:45:17Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I’d decide based on a combination of:

I think some people are overthinking the “party” part. I interpreted the poll to be asking “Which of these two groups of people would you rather have the opportunity to observe and/or interact with in a social setting?”

As for ketchup, I’m not a fan. I don’t actively dislike it, but there are plenty of other condiments (including tomato-based condiments) that I like much better. There are foods that I don’t mind ketchup on, but if all ketchup vanished from the earth I don’t think I’d miss it.

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**Author:** ![RollOutTheBarrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rolloutthebarrel/32/1649_2.png) [@RollOutTheBarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RollOutTheBarrel)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/492 "2024-03-16T22:01:42Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I think some people are overthinking the “party” part. I interpreted the poll to be asking “Which of these two groups of people would you rather have the opportunity to observe and/or interact with in a social setting?”

Yeah, this is what I was getting at. The party was just a framing device.

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> including “Honeywagon Driver”, whatever that is

The guy who pumps out the portable crappers when they’re on location.

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Really? Is that seriously what they call it? Yes, I suppose there’s a need for such a person, but if that were my job, the last thing I’d want is to see my name up on the big screen.  
(And is there a market for “celebrity honey”? Just askin’.)

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/495 "2024-03-16T22:27:42Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Ketchup? I like ketchup. I put it on lots of things which sometimes bothers my gf. (I made this lovely whatever and your putting ketchup on it?)
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> Of course it has to be Heinz, or alternatively a house-made tomato chutney kinda deal.

Mostly this for me (although the complaints come from purist friends, my wife is a huge fan of any sort of sauce). The poll doesn’t, and probably can’t address the sliding scales on the _quality_ of the ingredient that is having ketchup applied to, as well as the quality of the ketchup.

Overall, the lower quality of the food I’m adding ketchup too, the more ketchup is being added (generally though I won’t use it at all if the base is good enough). And if the ketchup is good (we have so many threads on this) like a house-made-from-scratch with locally grown tomatoes, well, I might use more. Or more likely, get a side to actively use it on.

But 100% with @kayaker - if the food needs something to cover up the ‘meh’, it better be Heinz of the commonly available ketchups found at most eateries. Otherwise (curse you Hunts and others) I’m just going to have to find something else to mitigate the meh, generally hot sauce (which is prefered anyway) or a metric ton of pepper.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Ketchup? I like ketchup.

I noticed.

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Really? Is that seriously what they call it?

Yes. For decades. And not just the movie industry.

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IXzGt7ryoYk/maxresdefault.jpg "RED GREEN Show: Ad from Rothschild Sewage and Septic Sucking Services") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXzGt7ryoYk)

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I’m gonna need some samples to taste-test before I can answer the cupcake poll.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> The man (me) spent WAY more. The only time this wasn’t the case was with my last girlfriend before my current wife. It was closer to even with her but she made twice what I did.

My relationship with my current girlfriend appears about to draw to a close, and one reason is the lopsidedness of it. I had to spend perhaps 20x as much money on her, or because of her, as she ever spent on me. Even when I was doing a full day of errands for _her_, she would expect _me_ to pick up the tab for the restaurant meals for us that day.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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I don’t know whether I can solve a Rubik’s Cube or not. I’ve messed around with one a little, but I’ve never seriously tried to solve one.

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