# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 279
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5562 "2025-02-05T20:45:47Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > the current inspection certificate (my state requires annual safety inspections) When I lived in a state that required annual inspections all we got was a window sticker. I didn’t realize actual inspection certificates that one could put in a glove box were a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5563 "2025-02-05T20:53:38Z")
We get the window stickers, too; they’re really all anyone cares about. I’m not aware of any requirement to keep the certificate on hand (it _might_ say something like “keep in vehicle,” but I’ve never heard of anyone being asked for it), but whoever does the inspection always gives me one – unrequested – and I figure it can’t hurt to just keep it in the glove box. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5564 "2025-02-05T20:57:59Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “Infinate” ? > [@WildaBeast](#): > > My browser’s spell checker doesn’t flag words inside the “build poll” text boxes. It’s better than “complartment”… ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5565 "2025-02-05T21:05:26Z")
I think it’s been a while since I’ve had a vehicle owners manual that would fit inside a glove box. Mine is under my seat. I’m one of the few, maybe the only, that clicked on food/drinks. I’m assuming gum and mints count as food. My glove box also contains a tire pressure gauge (oops, maybe that’s a tool) and a small pack of wet wipes. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5566 "2025-02-05T21:12:50Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I think it’s been a while since I’ve had a vehicle owners manual that would fit inside a glove box. Mine is under my seat. Mine is on the internet. It’s got to be at least a decade since I opened up an owners manual ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5567 "2025-02-05T21:13:12Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I’m assuming gum and mints count as food. Sure, you can count that as food. > [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > a tire pressure gauge (oops, maybe that’s a tool) Yeah, I’d count that as a tool. (My tire pressure gauge is in the arm rest storage compartment.) > [@Loach](#): > > Mine is on the internet. It’s got to be at least a decade since I opened up an owners manual My 2019 car did come with a paper owner’s manual. I’ve never touched it, but it is still there, in the glove box. It’s also in the Mazda app on my phone, which is where I go if I need to consult the manual for something. Come to think of it, my old '09 Corolla didn’t come with one, but I bought it used, so I assumed it was just lost but did have one originally. The dealer said I could order one for $50 if I really wanted one. I didn’t, and I never really missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5568 "2025-02-05T21:13:59Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Mine is on the internet On the Tesla Model X, it’s on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5569 "2025-02-05T21:26:20Z")
It’s like a disease, son. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5570 "2025-02-05T22:13:56Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Mine is on the internet. I downloaded mine as a pdf, but the vehicle herself actually came with a dead tree version. And it tells me that I need to read the whole section on “ProPilot” before I activate the smart cruise control. Inga (my vehicle) has a shitload of features, and I, being a luddite, have disabled a large fraction of them (the two I hated the most are the courtesy seat, which slides back to facilitate entry, and HUD, which puts useless information right in my field of view) – I wanted to try owning a brand new car for once in my life, and while it is not exactly _the suck_, it has kind of been a struggle. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5571 "2025-02-05T22:19:03Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Though, I have a heated steering wheel, so the gloves are somewhat vestigial. Not if you have to change a tire or something. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5572 "2025-02-05T22:44:13Z")
Actually, it’s easier to call AAA without gloves on than with. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5573 "2025-02-05T22:47:18Z")
Very good. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5574 "2025-02-05T22:57:10Z")
I keep a pair of light gloves in my jacket’s inner pocket, and another in my coat’s. And I drive an old enough (2007) car that it has a full printed owner’s manual (in said glove box), although so does the brand new 2024 Toyota PHEV, so… 🙂 My glove box has license and registration, 2-3 pencils/pens (which I was surprised to not see listed), a spare set of cheaaaaap sunglasses, a microfiber micro towel to clean sunglasses, and a small rechargeable flashlight. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5575 "2025-02-05T23:04:48Z")
My car did not come with a spare tire. It came with slime and a pump, which might be enough to get me to a tire repair shop. There is a large space under the rear deck that I could probably put a full-size spare into (and I expect to do so, along with a wrench and jack), but my vehicle was not made for DIY types. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5576 "2025-02-05T23:08:53Z")
Yeah, the full sized spare is going the way of the dodo, sadly, except on off road vehicles. But one of those “donut” temp spares weighs less and takes less room. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5577 "2025-02-05T23:09:14Z")
I don’t keep anything in the pickup truck bed, and there’s no other cargo area. I clicked “other” because, technically, there’s some snow and dead leaves there, but I’m not really planning on using either. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5578 "2025-02-05T23:48:53Z")
Even donuts are going the way of the dodo. Stupid decision but it both saves them money & weight which brings up Cafe about .01 MPG Even the car that has more storage has _some_ storage ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5579 "2025-02-06T00:08:32Z")
I linked this a while back in a different thread: > **[Some Newer Cars Are Missing a Spare Tire - Consumer Reports](https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tires/some-newer-cars-are-missing-a-spare-tire-a9928775934/)** > > Some cars lack a spare tire because carmakers are trying to squeeze more miles out of every gallon of fuel. Here's what you need to know about spare tires. **How Many Cars Still Have a Spare Tire?** > Since 2020, about 10 percent of the cars tested by Consumer Reports have come with a full-sized spare. Just under 50 percent have come with a temporary (aka space-saver) spare tire, and the rest have been equipped with a sealant kit or a run-flat tire, or nothing at all. > > Simply put, based on our test fleet, about 40 percent of new cars today don’t come with a spare tire, though they might also be equipped with a compressor and sealant kit to temporarily fix a flat tire. Some cars without a spare come with a run-flat tire, which is designed to operate for a limited distance after losing air from a typical puncture. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5580 "2025-02-06T00:37:46Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > brings up Cafe about .01 MPG my vehicle does not get any mpg ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5581 "2025-02-06T00:40:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > My car did not come with a spare tire. My Jaguar came with a full-size spare, but there’s literally nowhere to put it. It could sit in the cargo area, taking up all the room I guess. (it’s in my garage, wasting space there). On the other hand, I got great roadside assistance included so I can call for help if I ever get a flat. I’m not stockpiling anything. Should I? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=278) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=280)