# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5882 "2025-02-27T19:22:07Z")

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I recognize the names of all of Tolkien’s dwarves when I see them, but I only remembered five, alas: Thorin, Ori, Dori, Kili and Fili. I only remembered Dopey and Grumpy among Disney’s.

The biggest crowds I’ve ever been in were at Bill Clinton’s first inauguration in 1993 (a cold day on the Mall but an exciting event, and I laughed when I heard the Marine Band play Sousa’s “The Liberty Bell,” better known as the _Monty Python_ theme) and the outdoor celebration, near City Hall, of the Cleveland Cavaliers’ 2016 NBA Championship win (an enormous crowd, and there was a minute or so when I thought I really was at risk of being crushed, so I got out of there).

I’ll take part in the buying boycott tomorrow, other than having lunch with some friends at a locally-owned restaurant, which I understand is “permitted.”

If I had a DeLorean I would definitely have a _BTTF_-related plate. Love that movie!

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5883 "2025-02-27T19:57:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I only remembered five, alas

A most unfortunate post / username combination.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5884 "2025-02-27T20:26:59Z")

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I know! Well, Aragorn and his line never met them, in Tolkien canon, at least.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5885 "2025-02-27T20:33:31Z")

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He did meet Glóin at the council.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5886 "2025-02-27T23:22:09Z")

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I don’t think I’d really want a DeLorean, but I love the gull wing doors.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5887 "2025-02-28T12:44:42Z")

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I dunno, I think the novelty of the gull wings would wear off pretty quickly.

mmm

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5888 "2025-02-28T14:33:10Z")

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I actually have no idea what percentage of Trump voters will continue to excuse him under any particular set of circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5889 "2025-02-28T15:29:17Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> I dunno, I think the novelty of the gull wings would wear off pretty quickly.

The doors on the Tesla Model X are great (after four years, still loving them). Easy to get the dog in and out. However, they are in the back seat, not the driver’s door.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5890 "2025-02-28T18:59:03Z")

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I went shopping today. But I don’t live in the US, and it wasn’t online, so no Amazon.

Unfortunately the big thing with BTTF was the 88, which is also my year of graduation. But that’s been taken over by white supremacists. 😿

My grandparents lost their farm due to Reganomics. They, or at least my grandfather, still voted Republican and would have probably voted for Trump if they were still alive. My uncle, their son, did vote for Trump. And his son might end up losing his job, because his son is paid by Medicaid/Medicare to take care of his parents. 😠 So I think a lot of Trump voters will still blame anybody but Trump.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5891 "2025-02-28T20:10:59Z")

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> [@Maus\_Magill](#):
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> He did meet Glóin at the council.

Ah, fair point. In my defense, I did say “them.”

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5892 "2025-02-28T20:14:37Z")

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I understood what you’d meant, but there was this nit that just begged to be picked.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5893 "2025-02-28T20:24:24Z")

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When Bilbo and the dwarves stopped in Rivendell on their way to the Lonely Mountain in 2941, Aragorn was 10 years old and was living in Rivendell as Elrond’s ward. It seems plausible that he may have met them then, although I don’t believe such a meeting is mentioned in any canonical text.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5894 "2025-02-28T21:25:48Z")

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It is not, although I remember in the leadup to the (very disappointing IMHO) _Hobbit_ movies, there was some speculation among Tolkien fans that perhaps a young Aragorn, er, Estel would make an appearance in the movie(s).

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5895 "2025-02-28T21:47:30Z")

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I would have rather seen that than Radagast getting shat on and ten minutes of the giants throwing boulders at each other.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5896 "2025-02-28T22:52:55Z")

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> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#):
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> So I think a lot of Trump voters will still blame anybody but Trump.

It’s not his fault! If the Dems didn’t hire so many Federal workers then Dear Leader wouldn’t have to fire so many of them. Duh!

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5897 "2025-03-01T11:17:55Z")

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Showering:

I’ve never showered on a vehicle (moving or not), nor standing out in the rain. But I did use my horses’ 100 gal, newly cleaned water trough for a quick non-soap bath when I had no water at the house for some reason. Can’t remember now if it was a power outage or a plumbing issue that required turning off the water. At any rate, the weather was warm, the tank was sparkling clean, and I needed to be a bit cleaner than I was. No houses or streets in line of sight and no visitors expected so I hopped in for a quick scrub and prayed we weren’t about to get a UPS delivery or something 'cuz I was in full uphill view from the driveway.

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**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5898 "2025-03-01T11:33:34Z")

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I have showered in a ship, I think there might be complaints if I didn’t on a 10 day cruise!

I answered I have not showered in the rain but I scuba dive and sometimes use a hose or jerrycan of water to rinse the salt off my drysuit (while still wearing it), I can’t remember doing so while it was raining but it is possible.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5899 "2025-03-01T13:05:58Z")

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I have showered in the rain several times, with and without thunder. It was to rinse the salt and sand off before getting under a canopy or sitting in the tent while waiting out the storm.

I don’t understand the “You’d be out of your mind to do such a thing” response. Maybe people are thinking about leaving a house to go out in a storm. But I was camping on the beach so there wasn’t anywhere to go and not much else to do at the time. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5900 "2025-03-01T13:07:45Z")

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> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> I have showered in a ship, I think there might be complaints if I didn’t on a 10 day cruise!

Doh, I did not think of showering on cruise ships.

mmm

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/5901 "2025-03-01T15:12:04Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> Aragorn was 10 years old and was living in Rivendell as Elrond’s ward.

He was a ten-year old kid living with people who live thousands of years (elves) visited by others whi live hundreds (dwarves),

They probably didn’t know he existed unless Elrond brought him out especially to gawk at.

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