# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 306
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6102 "2025-03-20T18:02:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If I bought a car without a CD player, I’d pay to have one installed. Is that even possible in modern cars with their integrated infotainment systems? They don’t have a spot in the dashboard to install a stereo head unit like cars of old. If it’s possible at all you’d probably have to mount it under the dash. Of course the easiest way to add a CD player would be to get a portable one and plug it into the aux jack, except those are becoming less common, too. But I bet someone makes a Bluetooth adapter that can be plugged into the headphone jack of a CD player. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6103 "2025-03-20T19:10:24Z")
Yep, there are a [bunch of them](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=audio+to+bluetooth+transmitter). ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6104 "2025-03-20T19:37:31Z")
I am on team Bangles, since most of the Go-Go’s hits were just before my prime radio listening years (I was born in the mid 70s, so mid 80s and later is the sweet spot!). That doesn’t mean that I don’t enjoy quite a few Go-gos songs, just that they aren’t nearly as wired into my brain the way the Bangles are. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6105 "2025-03-20T19:56:24Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Not only does my car have a CD player, but I sometimes use it. Yep, I dont bother with bluetooth or whatever. There is a cool local no ad station that plays classic rock, and I have CDs for when i get out of range. Mind you, I dont drive long distances much anymore. One car does have Sirius satellite radio, If the car didnt come with a CD, I’d get Sirius. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6106 "2025-03-20T21:24:10Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I was looking for the “Love ‘em both!” option on the Bangles/Go-Go’s poll. > > Tough choice, but I had to give it to the Bangles because Susanna Hoffs. That’s what makes it an easy choice. Susanna all the way. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6107 "2025-03-21T01:37:11Z")
Probably there are no votes for “some other answer” because there’s no way to register a vote for that. If it’s presumed to go with the how long will you modify your driving poll – probably for the rest of my life on that particular stretch of road. Elsewhere, likely to be less so. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6108 "2025-03-21T12:47:48Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > Is that even possible in modern cars with their integrated infotainment systems? They don’t have a spot in the dashboard to install a stereo head unit like cars of old. My last car (2002) had a six CD changer in the dash (one slot). My current car (2017) has a single CD slot in the glove compartment along with a (additional) USB and two SD card inputs. I’ve never used the CD player in my current car, TIL: I just discovered (by reading the manual) that the glove box inputs can be used to load files into the car’s “Jukebox” and played through that function under the Media menu in the infotainment system. Who knew? (not me, the damn manual is almost 400 pages long). ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6109 "2025-03-21T19:42:47Z")
There’s no such bird as a “seagull.” /pedantic birdwatcher ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6110 "2025-03-21T19:45:00Z")
> [@susan](#): > > There’s no such bird as a “seagull." That’s true. I was using the term loosely I guess. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6111 "2025-03-21T19:48:59Z")
As we all do. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6112 "2025-03-21T19:54:50Z")
Sorry. I’m a native speaker of English, and there most certainly is, in that this is the primary word I know for a certain white and grey seabird, and when I use it, other English speakers understand which animal I am referring to. And, of course, there’s the famous Jonathan Livingston Seagull. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6113 "2025-03-21T19:58:17Z")
I suppose what we’ve got aren’t seagulls; they’d have to be lake gulls. Sure look like seagulls, though; and sound like seagulls; and there sure are a lot of them. – hmmm. Apparently we’ve (commonly) got three different species. > **[SPEAKING of NATURE: Give gulls the respect they deserve](https://www.fltimes.com/lifestyle/speaking-of-nature-give-gulls-the-respect-they-deserve/article_6318f1e7-f522-59a7-a437-dd738a5e29e8.html)** > > To prepare my students for careers in conservation, I provide knowledge of big concepts as well as small details. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6114 "2025-03-21T19:59:49Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > they’d have to be lake gulls. I intended the question to be broad enough to cover lake gulls. Any gulls really. I was just listening to some gulls shrieking this morning, and wondered how common it is to have that pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6115 "2025-03-21T20:21:21Z")
My turn to be nitpicky. It depends on what you mean by where you live and what your definition of common is. I live in a coastal state. There are certainly a lot of shore birds in the state. I’m far enough inland that I wouldn’t consider it common to see one in my neighborhood but it also wouldn’t consider it unusual. They sometimes make their way inland. I once saw an entire parking lot filled with gulls in the Phillipsburg area. That’s in the northwest part of the state that’s about as far from the ocean as you can get while still in the state. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6116 "2025-03-21T20:42:54Z")
> [@susan](#): > > There’s no such bird as a “seagull. I found quite a few uses of that term on Google Scholar. Yes, a better term is just “gull”. > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I suppose what we’ve got aren’t seagulls; they’d have to be lake gulls. Sure look like seagulls, though; and sound like seagulls; and there sure are a lot of them. They are seagulls, but now the better term is just “gulls”. Like jellyfish is now “jellies” , starfish is now _sea stars,_ etc. Science is trying for more precise terms, but changing the english language is a uphill battle. > [@Loach](#): > > I’m far enough inland that I wouldn’t consider it common to see one in my neighborhood but it also wouldn’t consider it unusual. Right, same here. I sometimes see them in parking lots eating garbage, and they do haunt the dumps. However, the Raven has pushed the gull out of many inland areas- ravens are smarter. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6117 "2025-03-21T20:52:18Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Like jellyfish is now “jellies” , starfish is now _sea stars,_ etc. Science is trying for more precise terms, but changing the english language is a uphill battle. “Jellies” may be more precise in that they aren’t fish, but it’s less precise in that it confuses them with something sweet to spread on one’s toast at breakfast. Adam is described as having had an easy time naming things. It’s gotten harder since. (And I suspect that description left out Eve’s opinion. And then there’s [LeGuin’s opinion of Eve’s opinion](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qE-mJs0wRwWkwK7b7bCqqGBC1Iqrl9GSrdhXpdQogaM/edit?tab=t.0) . . . ) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6118 "2025-03-21T21:03:12Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > “Jellies” may be more precise in that they aren’t fish, They actually use “sea jelly” except in context, when it is just jellies. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6119 "2025-03-22T00:42:58Z")
_If thou hearest the cry of the gull on the shore,_ _Thy heart shall then rest in the forest no more._ ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6120 "2025-03-22T00:45:38Z")
I will never understand scientists’ refusal to acknowledge that “-fish” means “water-dweller,” and “fish” means a subset of that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/6121 "2025-03-23T04:19:45Z")
I’ve had plenty of fun in my life, and still am, but I could certainly use more money now. Haven’t had a CD player in any car of mine for more than a decade now. We have a CD player in the kitchen, though, which I often use for music while I’m doing the dishes. I give the Go-Gos a slight edge over the Bangles, although I like some of the songs of both. As it happens, on Friday night I heard the Bangles’ cover of “A Hazy Shade of Winter” - which is, I think, even better than the Simon & Garfunkel original. Don’t you judge me! We see seagulls around NE Ohio with some regularity. I guess they’re lake gulls, technically, but everyone just calls them seagulls. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=305) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=307)