# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/682 "2024-03-25T03:33:39Z")

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So how much tattoo does one get for $10k? A sleeve? Full body Yakuza style?

I have no tats, no idea of the expense.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/683 "2024-03-25T03:39:18Z")

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Here’s a guy who has spent over $100k on his tattoos:

> **[How Much Does a Tattoo Cost?](https://dermdude.com/blogs/dude-cave/how-much-does-a-tattoo-cost)**
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> In-depth analysis of the cost of tattoos based on the size of the tattoo, where on your body you get the tattoo, tattoo artist skill level, geographic location, and level of detail in the tattoo.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/684 "2024-03-25T03:46:29Z")

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[The Very Brief History of Temporary Tattoos | Tatt Me Temporary Tattoos](https://tattmetattoos.com/blogs/news/the-very-brief-history-of-temporary-tattoos#:~:text=The%20early%20history%20of%20temporary,designs%20for%201%20cent%20each).

> **[The Earliest Known History of Temporary Tattoos](https://jestpaint.com/blogs/how-to-face-paint-face-painting-tips/the-earliest-known-history-of-temporary-tattoos)**
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> While permanent tattoos were around for thousands of years, not many people know that temporary ones are a product of the modern age; more precisely speaking, the twentieth century. Extremely popular among children and adults who wouldn’t accept...

> The early history of temporary tattoos is vague, but most attribute their origins to the iconic Cracker Jacks® product, which began featuring a “prize in every box” in 1912. It’s believed these original prizes were temporary tattoos, and by the 1950’s, they sold sheets of these designs for 1 cent each.
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> As time went on, temporary tattoos attained more mainstream popularity via baseball cards, other trading cards, and with the development of “scratch and sniff” tattoos.
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> By the mid 1980’s, and with eagerness from Hollywood to create a tattoo that was only temporary, an inventor named Keith R. Relyea, received a patent for his method of printing images on a translucent film that could then be transferred to the body.

So far more common during _my_ childhood (I would have been around 10 in the mid 80s) than yours apparently, but still probably a thing for yours. Doesn’t mean you or any other poster would have come across it or used it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/685 "2024-03-25T03:46:57Z")

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Thanks, good article.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/686 "2024-03-25T04:24:56Z")

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I seem to recall that Cracker Jack sometimes had a temporary tattoo .

Did anyone else make their own temporary tattoos with a bit of paper and a pen?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/687 "2024-03-25T13:39:38Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> So far more common during _my_ childhood (I would have been around 10 in the mid 80s) than yours apparently, but still probably a thing for yours. Doesn’t mean you or any other poster would have come across it or used it

Thanks for info!

I was never into baseball cards or other trading cards, and don’t think I’d have bought a sheet of tattoos as such. I do remember getting Cracker Jacks; but what I remember being in them is some sort of small cheap plastic toy. Maybe they sometimes had tattoos, and I just don’t remember it. I don’t know whether I would have used them if I had gotten some.

> [@Zyada](#):
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> Did anyone else make their own temporary tattoos with a bit of paper and a pen?

People drew or wrote on their arms sometimes. I don’t think we thought of this as tattoos.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/688 "2024-03-25T13:43:42Z")

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From my childhod (1970s), I definitely associate temporary tattoos with Cracker-Jack prizes.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/689 "2024-03-25T16:47:52Z")

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I’ve seen several shows on Broadway, but I haven’t seen any of the shows listed in mmm’s poll on Broadway.

- I saw _Cats_ performed by a local community theater group.
- I saw a student production of _Rent_ at the local community collage.
- I saw the touring productions of _Wicked_ and _The Book of Mormon_.
- I saw the San Francisco productions of _Come From Away_ and _Hamilton_.

Last December I saw the revival of _Sweeney Todd_ on Broadway, which was excellent, and I think it’s a travesty that _Sweeney Todd_ wasn’t included in the poll.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/690 "2024-03-25T17:01:05Z")

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I’ve only seen one musical, “Hamilton” at the Richard Rodgers Theater. Lots of operas though!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/691 "2024-03-25T17:03:55Z")

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I have spent $50 on a tattoo design, but ultimately didn’t like it enough to get the tattoo. I’d like a tattoo but need to find the right artist.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/692 "2024-03-25T17:06:14Z")

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I’m seen _Les Miz_, _Book of Morman_, and _Beautiful_ on Broadway. I’ve seen _Hamilton_ i LA and Seattle.

No tattoos yet.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/693 "2024-03-25T18:00:02Z")

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I’ve never been to Sydney, and oddly I’ve never seen an off-broadway show in NYC. The others on the list I’ve all done many times.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/694 "2024-03-25T18:58:01Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I think it’s a travesty that _Sweeney Todd_ wasn’t included in the poll

There were a _lot_ of musicals that weren’t in the poll, enough so that I can’t consider any particular omission a surprise or a travesty. But I was curious what standards @Mean_Mr.Mustard used when decising which to include in his poll, or whether he just listed whatever sprang to his mind at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/695 "2024-03-25T18:59:11Z")

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Another vote for 0, surprised it wasn’t an option. Reminds me of this

> **[https://i.redd.it/xpavtu4tzhy21.jpg](https://i.redd.it/xpavtu4tzhy21.jpg)**

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/696 "2024-03-25T19:52:35Z")

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> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> Another vote for 0, surprised it wasn’t an option. Reminds me of this

That cartoon made me chuckle, thanks!

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/697 "2024-03-25T19:59:25Z")

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Damned if I know whether we should declare war if China attacks Taiwan.

I can think of real good arguments on both sides.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/698 "2024-03-25T20:10:01Z")

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I voted “Yes, but…” on the China vs. Taiwan question. Yes, because Crimea + Ukraine proved that ignoring the actions of an expansionist power (appeasement by any other name) doesn’t seem to work, with the “but…” being a huge number of costs involved: economic, political, lack of material (production and stockpiles), et al.

Personally, I think China has a better read on the US than vice versa, and they’ll wait until the USA is fully invested in infighting (a new Trump administration for example, right after it guts _everyone_ not meeting loyalty requirements) or the exhaustion of the “West” after meeting a good/bad/indifferent end/stalemate with Russia’s war in the Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/699 "2024-03-25T20:27:18Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > [@WildaBeast](#):
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> > I think it’s a travesty that _Sweeney Todd_ wasn’t included in the poll
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> There were a _lot_ of musicals that weren’t in the poll, enough so that I can’t consider any particular omission a surprise or a travesty. But I was curious what standards @Mean_Mr.Mustard used when decising which to include in his poll, or whether he just listed whatever sprang to his mind at the moment.

I used a list of the highest-grossing musicals of all time, but this only gave me 25.

I filled in the rest with others that came to mind, in addition to some i have seen that were not on the list (I acknowledge that this is cheating).

mmm

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/700 "2024-03-25T21:00:37Z")

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I have only had one tattoo in my life.

During a colonoscopy, the doctor found a tumor. He marked it with a tattoo to serve as a reference point for a later procedure to remove it. At the time, I had lousy insurance, so the colonoscopy was rather expensive, but the tattoo didn’t cost anything extra.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/701 "2024-03-25T21:16:03Z")

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No tats, no piercings, no nothing. Never been tempted, never seen any that I like on others. Except for a bartender friend from years ago who had a small Mighty Mouse on her right boob in her cleavage. Tasteful and unassuming.

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