# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7362 "2025-07-01T18:59:35Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I’m surprised that so many of us don’t mind being woken up at five in the morning.

I would mind being woken up at that hour. I just don’t think someone leaving a package on my doorstep would wake me up. I don’t have any dogs that would bark, and at most my cat would silently run and hide until he was sure the stranger was gone.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7363 "2025-07-01T19:02:21Z")

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A package at that hour on my doorstep wouldn’t be noticed by anyone.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7364 "2025-07-01T19:04:13Z")

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I keep forgetting that you get your packages on your doorstep, here the delivery guy/gal rings your bell and gives them to you personally, (and if they can’t find your address they may call you on the phone to arrange the delivery).  
It would be a bit annoying for that to happen at 5 am.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7365 "2025-07-01T19:07:23Z")

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We sometimes wind up having Amazon packages delivered “overnight,” which is typically sometime between 2am and 6am. I agree with @puzzlegal that it’s “too early,” though really it’s that I wonder about delivery drivers being out in the middle of the night, and hope that they don’t trip on anything because our front porch light isn’t on.

We don’t have a dog, and we live next to a busy-enough street that a certain level of road noise is just part of life in our house – there’s not a whole lot of road noise in the middle of the night, but by 5 a.m, Chicago-area rush-hour traffic is already starting up. Our bedroom is in the very back of the house, and deliveries come to the front door, so a car pulling up, and a package being left on the front step (without ringing the doorbell) isn’t likely to wake us.

We have several Amazon Echos in the house, including one on my nightstand, which will give an audible alert when an Amazon package is delivered, but on overnight deliveries, the Echo won’t give that alert until it picks up a certain level of noise/activity within the house (i.e., once one of us is already awake and moving).

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7366 "2025-07-01T19:27:30Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I’m surprised that so many of us don’t mind being woken up at five in the morning.

The poll just asked whether it was “too early,” without specifying whether it was too early for @Procrustus (the poll-maker, who got woken up by his dog) or for us (the poll answerers, who might not be woken up by a 5 am delivery).

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7367 "2025-07-01T19:32:13Z")

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I meant “too early” generally. It was definitely too early for me. The driver didn’t ring the doorbell, but she was right below our bedroom deck. My wife went out to see who it was, and said “hi.” Even without our dog, I think we would have been aware there was a car there.

Not a big deal, but it just seemed strange. We get _a lot_ of deliveries, but never had one at such an hour before.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7368 "2025-07-01T19:35:32Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> We get _a lot_ of deliveries, but never had one at such an hour before.

Amazon’s been offering “overnight” deliveries on some things around here for a couple of years now, but we’re in a large urbanized area.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7369 "2025-07-01T19:46:52Z")

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I get up at 5 every day, so I can go walk (my version of exercise) before it gets too hot (during the summer) and because I’m used to getting up at 5. I went to work at 6 at my last job before retiring and by then it was a habit to be awake by 5. I can’t sleep in no matter how I try. However, retirement has enabled napping so it’s no big deal.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7370 "2025-07-01T21:01:05Z")

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Right now we hit twilight by 4:30 AM. In winter it would be much more of a nuisance to have someone stumbling around in the dark.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7371 "2025-07-01T21:23:39Z")

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5am is too early. I don’t currently have dogs, but I did and it would have made them lose their minds, LOUDLY. It’s not even Christmastime, where I am more understanding. And I guess if you live in a development that has a bank of mailboxes at the entrance that is not disruptive. Someone coming onto my proper at 5am would unfortunately send me into panic mode.

Also, during the last election season, I yelled at a canvasser for coming to the door late. Definitely after 8pm, probably after 9pm. I’m not opening my door after dark to someone I’m not expecting.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7372 "2025-07-01T22:23:12Z")

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What time do the porch pirates get up in your neighborhood?

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7373 "2025-07-01T22:34:03Z")

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Delivery was an “other” for me. Because in the past, Amazon would ring the doorbell for any delivery, and that absolutely would wake me up - that would be too early. These days, it’s a stealth delivery, they come up, they drop off on the porch, and disappear. And by 5am there are people getting in their morning walks on the sidewalk, and my wife has just gotten up to get ready for work and to feed the cats.

So _for me_ it’s not a problem, though I agree it feels like a crappy experience for the deliveryperson.

The biggest part of my other is _winter_ deliveries. I worry that a 5am delivery, when it’s pitch dark, and no one has had a chance to get up and shovel possible snow would lead to a horrible slip, fall, and troublesome insurance claims.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7374 "2025-07-01T22:48:34Z")

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We have very few porch pirates. I’ve never lost a package to one.

I was really amused when i bought a MacBook Pro and a copy of Microsoft office to go with it. The cardboard box that contained a code to download the software, a code that could have been emailed to me, required my signature. The expensive hardware was just left leaning against my front door.

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**Author:** ![SailorHG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SailorHG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SailorHG)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7375 "2025-07-02T02:57:03Z")

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In Sweden you usually have to pay extra for door delivery, so nearly all of my packages are retrieved from the local pick-up point near my apartment. It’s at the subway entrance, so pretty convenient, and I don’t have to worry about anything getting stolen.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7376 "2025-07-02T03:15:55Z")

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There’s absolutely no way an Amazon delivery would wake me up (unless they rang the doorbell, and they don’t even do that during normal hours). Our bedroom is on the opposite end of the house from the front door, we don’t have a dog, and I sleep with ear plugs.

And porch pirates aren’t really an issue in our neighborhood. So I’ll just be pleasantly surprised to see a package whenever I happen to open the door that day.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7377 "2025-07-02T11:45:58Z")

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We have a gate at the end of our driveway, which is over 200 ft from the end of the house, and about 300 ft from the bedroom. Packages are left on one side or other of the gate, and I wouldn’t hear a thing. If they drop it over the fence there’s no easy way for it to be seen from the road, and we don’t suffer from porch pirates out here, as far as I know. At least (knocking on wood) we haven’t so far.

I know UPS and FedEx have delivered as late as 9:30 pm in winter, and there are times, when I know there’s no weather coming through and the item isn’t sensitive, that I’ll just leave it there until morning.

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**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7378 "2025-07-03T07:08:31Z")

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I bought a special box for deliveries. It’s heavy duty plastic and is 4x2x2 feet. It has “Deliveries” painted on it twice in bright orange, three-inch-high capital letters. I put instructions to “place packages inside delivery box” on all of my Amazon orders.

Naturally, the Amazon driver puts our packages on top of the trash cans, out where they can be rained or snowed on. Did I mention he has to walk past the delivery box to get to the trash cans? Yeah.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7379 "2025-07-03T18:35:05Z")

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I rarely give negative feedback on deliveries, I figure it’s an unpleasant enough job as it is, but I think that one would do it.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7380 "2025-07-04T01:53:20Z")

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Have polls been disabled? I use to click the gear to select Build a Poll, but now the gear has been replaced with a plus sign (+) with no way to build a poll.

What gives?

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/7381 "2025-07-04T02:01:48Z")

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