# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9223 "2025-11-16T02:01:49Z")

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In my particular state of health, probably something proteiny. Of the choices given, can I have whole grain carbs?

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9224 "2025-11-16T03:17:25Z")

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There is a large overlap between something sweet and something carb heavy.

mmm

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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To be frank, I didn’t really understand the question. Why would my beliefs be a matter, and then why limit myself to ‘no heavy outliers’, whatever that means?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
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Given my prediabetes, I probably have to choose the fatty snack. Still not healthy, but won’t spike my pancreas as much as the sugary or carby snack.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9227 "2025-11-16T04:01:24Z")

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Covid killed taste for sweet, so carbs it is.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9228 "2025-11-16T04:40:31Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> In my particular state of health, probably something proteiny.

Yep, but some cheese fits the bill both ways.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9229 "2025-11-16T19:39:41Z")

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You can have an appointment for a meeting, but not a meeting for an appointment. QED.

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9230 "2025-11-16T19:40:58Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Covid killed taste for sweet, so carbs it is.

Covid killed/altered my taste as well.

At least I can spice up my carbs with herbs and salt and sauces.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9231 "2025-11-16T19:46:20Z")

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Sweet snacks usually don’t satisfy my appetite, in fact they can increase it.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9232 "2025-11-16T19:47:26Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> You can have an appointment for a meeting, but not a meeting for an appointment. QED.

Yes, you can have no bananas, but no, you can’t have yes bananas.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9233 "2025-11-16T20:02:42Z")

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As a business owner/supervisor I call impromptu meetings on occasion. I make reservations for various things that are appointments without necessarily meeting anyone.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9234 "2025-11-16T20:24:13Z")

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An appointment is an agreement or plan to engage in some activity at a future time. The idea that a plan to have a meeting is the same as the meeting itself is a category error.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9235 "2025-11-16T21:08:56Z")

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You can make an appointment to have a meeting to discuss future appointments to have future meetings.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9236 "2025-11-16T22:00:42Z")

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_Meeting in Samarra,_ John O’Hara’s poignant novel about a team sit-down with Death. Agenda to follow.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9237 "2025-11-16T22:02:29Z")

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I assumed whole grain carbs, because that’s what I eat. Really surprised to see in the poll that fat is considered “healthier” than carbs. But I shouldn’t be surprised given all the negative propaganda against carbs in recent years. There’s no question that whole grain crackers are healthier than candy or a deep-fried stick of butter.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9238 "2025-11-16T22:09:32Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> There’s no question that whole grain crackers are healthier than candy or a deep-fried stick of butter.

Assuming the oil used is a saturated fat, the crackers will spike your glucose more. Pick your poison; sugar or cholesterol. Family history and lab results indicate I am a higher risk for diabetes than heart disease, so I lean toward fats over starches, even whole grain (which is a misnomer if the fiber-rich germ is removed).

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9239 "2025-11-16T22:15:04Z")

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I picked carbs because a potato (in all its variants) is probably better for me than anything high in saturated fat. I don’t subscribe to the carbs = evil philosophy, or the fat = evil philosophy, FWIW. But I believe certain types of fats are unhealthier than certain types of carbs.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9240 "2025-11-16T22:18:14Z")

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Who even uses saturated fats any more? I can’t even remember the last time I saw crackers made with saturated fats, it was so long ago.

I live mostly on whole grains. I bake all my own bread, and since I’ve figured out how to add vital wheat gluten, I can make 100% whole wheat bread with a good rise. I love its rich flavor and nourishing feel. The anti-wheat propaganda these days sounds crazy to me.

Potatoes are good too.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9241 "2025-11-16T22:29:23Z")

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If that’s what works for your body; good. I can live without starches and don’t need to worry about my blood sugar. I also have Hashimoto’s Syndrome which makes gluten particularly unfriendly. I couldn’t help but cheat when I was in Paris a few weeks ago, and, boy, did I pay the price. Achy joints and a sluggishness that didn’t wear off for weeks. The same diet doesn’t work for everybody,

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9242 "2025-11-16T22:31:32Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> Who even uses saturated fats any more?

I was talking about whatever the stick of butter was fried in. Saturated fats have been generalized as a dietary villain a lot longer than wheat.

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