# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 463
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9243 "2025-11-16T22:34:57Z")
I fry using peanut oil. It’s more expensive, but gives the desired results. > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I was talking about whatever the stick of butter was fried in. No, you were talking about crackers made with saturated fat when you introduced the subject. I mentioned the fried butter because it’s otherwise hard to think of a fatty snack that’s just fat, that isn’t also full of carbs/sugars. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9244 "2025-11-16T22:39:06Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > > > I was talking about whatever the stick of butter was fried in. > > No, you were talking about crackers made with saturated fat when you introduced the subject. Please don’t tell me what I meant. I’m sorry if I was unclear. I wanted to specify a stick of butter fried in a saturated fat as being healthier for me than any starch like a cracker. I try to avoid some over-processed vegetable oils high in omega 6 fatty acids. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9245 "2025-11-17T00:39:47Z")
I’m not telling you what you meant. I’m quoting what you said. In post 9242 above. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9246 "2025-11-17T00:42:44Z")
I clarified, so now you know exactly what I meant. If you want to play grammar Nazi, have at it. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9247 "2025-11-17T00:45:15Z")
Nothing I wrote here could reasonably earn the designation “grammar Nazi.” “He use the N-word, Nazi word, which is disgrace the human race.” —Al Yeganeh ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9248 "2025-11-17T01:00:34Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Who even uses saturated fats any more? Palm oil is as much as 80% saturated fat. > Common processed foods containing palm oil > > Baked goods: Packaged bread, cookies, cakes, and pastries often contain palm oil to keep them soft and fresh longer. > > Snacks: Chips, crackers, and certain cereals use palm oil for preservation and texture. > Confectionery: Many chocolate bars, candy, and frostings are made with palm oil for a smooth texture. > > Dairy alternatives: Plant-based products like non-dairy creamers, vegan cheeses, and some ice creams use palm oil to mimic the texture of dairy fats. > > Frozen foods: Palm oil helps prevent sticking and can act as a preservative in frozen meals and pizza. > Spreads and butters: It keeps peanut butter from separating, and is also found in margarine and some other vegetable shortening. > > Instant meals: Instant noodles and stock cubes often contain palm oil. > > Other examples: It can also be found in instant coffee, microwave popcorn, and some salad dressings. [https://www.goodrx.com/well-being/diet-nutrition/is-palm-oil-bad-for-you](https://www.goodrx.com/well-being/diet-nutrition/is-palm-oil-bad-for-you) ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9249 "2025-11-17T03:50:39Z")
Am I the only one confused about the concept of deep frying a stick of butter? mmm ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9250 "2025-11-17T04:10:39Z")
@Mean_Mr.Mustard I peeked at Google and it is definitely a thing. Apparently served at some state fairs. It should come with a side of Immodium. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9251 "2025-11-17T04:39:43Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > An appointment is an agreement or plan to engage in some activity at a future time. The idea that a plan to have a meeting is the same as the meeting itself is a category error. This. I can have an appointment with my laptop to do some task by myself. I can also have an appointment to meet with other human beings, but the appointment isn’t, itself, a meeting. I can also have an impromptu meeting for which there was never an appointment. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9252 "2025-11-17T05:23:03Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > If you want to play grammar Nazi… Hitler’s speechwriter was a grammar Nazi! In MS Outlook, meetings have a line to invite others while appointments do not. I put appointments on my calendar either as personal reminders to do something or when I will be OOO since I’m not inviting anyone from work to join me. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9253 "2025-11-17T19:39:53Z")
I had to Google what some of those fabric patterns were. It turns out the shirt I thought was a check pattern is actually gingham, so I had to go back and change my vote. I’m assuming a Hawaiian print shirt counts as a floral pattern. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9254 "2025-11-17T20:14:28Z")
Not necessarily. I counted it as “other.” ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9255 "2025-11-17T20:30:26Z")
I don’t really do patterns. The occasional floral. I can’t emphasize enough how uninspired I am at dressing myself. I find a solid-colored item of clothing, I buy one of that item in every color I can stand, and that is my wardrobe for like, at least ten years. The one exception is I have to sort of keep a wardrobe of dresses and accessories on hand because I attend a lot of weddings, funerals, and other formal events. Well, actually… a couple years ago I found a solid color dress I liked, ordered two more in a _slightly_ different style and color and called it good. So I’m guilty even in this case. Recently I bought another dress for a funeral from my favorite dress store, they said for $20 more they’d send me a random surprise dress in my size. I thought what the hell! It’s floral. I opened the package… I think meh. My husband likes it, though, so I might wear it sometime. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9256 "2025-11-17T20:31:51Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > I had to Google what some of those fabric patterns were I would have to do that but am unlikely to bother. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9257 "2025-11-17T20:53:41Z")
I don’t think any of my clothes can be said to have a “pattern” . I mostly wear t-shirts which are either a solid color or have a logo representing a band or a city, with khaki pants. The closest thing I ever wear to a pattern is tie-dye. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9258 "2025-11-17T21:23:09Z")
- I have some (floral) Hawaiian shirts that only get worn in the summer (usually only on _some_ Fridays) - I have some rugby shirts that only get worn in the winter. - I have a couple of plaid flannel that only get worn on the coldest winter days. Is that enough to be considered commonly worn? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9259 "2025-11-18T04:00:23Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Who even uses saturated fats any more? I can’t even remember the last time I saw crackers made with saturated fats, it was so long ago. Just for the record, I looked up a current grocery store listing for the nutritional information on Ritz crackers (something used in a lot of holiday cooking). A standard 5 cracker serving (16g) has 4.5g of total fats, 1.5 of which are saturated (8% of the daily %rv). On the other hand, if you’re doing responsible shopping and cooking which I think _extremely_ likely based on your posting, yeah, you’re not going to see _nearly_ that much. Or possibly one or more of us are thinking about _trans_ fats which I agree are disappearing from a lot of reformulated foods. So likely everyone is correct based on what they’re looking at / shopping for. Clothes - I answered sold colors, with a _technical_ side of checks. Which I don’t _commonly_ wear, unless it’s late-fall through spring. Because I have a few checked flannel shirts that are part of my layering scheme here at altitude in Colorado. So 4-5 months out of the year. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9260 "2025-11-18T04:26:58Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > > [@Johanna](#): > > > > Who even uses saturated fats any more? I can’t even remember the last time I saw crackers made with saturated fats, it was so long ago. > > Just for the record, I looked up a current grocery store listing for the nutritional information on Ritz crackers (something used in a lot of holiday cooking). A standard 5 cracker serving (16g) has 4.5g of total fats, 1.5 of which are saturated (8% of the daily %rv). I use a lot of butter, which is mostly saturated fat. I sometimes use palm oil, which is mostly saturated fat. I don’t cook with lard, but lard and bacon fat are moderately popular cooking fats, also highly saturated. And i eat meats which have saturated fat. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9261 "2025-11-18T04:39:18Z")
Yeah, it’s still common, though absolutely in smaller quantities than the past. Though it’s one of the reasons I carefully ration my consumption of Shin Red Ramen, because a single package is 8g of saturated fats. Thus my thought it may be a confusion for hydrogen-stabilized trans fats which while not _gone_ have far less of a presence in even processed foods these days. In the poll that brought it up, I didn’t vote. All three are things I’m trying to avoid these days - my “bad” Cholesterol is higher than my doctor wants (though moving in the right direction with diet and exercise) so I’m managing it and my saturated fats carefully, my blood sugar has also improved, as it was _just_ shy of pre-diabetic and dropped from there, and while I LOVE me some carbs, it does trigger cravings that lead to bigger portions or more frequent ones. If you forced me to choose, it’d probably be the “something fatty” because I find I can snack on pecans and almonds and worry about the results a whole LOT less. And I love pecans. Sadly, a single “snack” portion of roughly 1 oz is still nearly 200 calories. Better than a LOT of choices though. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/9262 "2025-11-18T05:37:56Z")
Huh, i have no idea what to do with the ice cream poll. I love chocolate, but don’t like any others from that “group”. I like some of the fruit flavors when done well (okay, when home made) but don’t care for others. I like many of the spice flavors when done well, but rarely eat them. So do they even count? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=462) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=464)