# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1502 "2024-05-26T18:11:53Z")
First class costs $200 more than coach? Oh, you dear sweet summer child. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1503 "2024-05-26T18:21:51Z")
I’ve been skipping all of the (many!) polls about urine cups. I mean, WTF? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1504 "2024-05-26T18:24:43Z")
I guess it depends where you live. Where I am (suburb of San Francisco) bicycle lanes are not heavily used, but I do see a cyclist on them occasionally. In Amsterdam, where I used to travel on business regularly, there are thousands. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1505 "2024-05-26T18:38:36Z")
Certainly. And I’m not a cyclist, I might even gripe about cyclists from time to time, but frankly I don’t blame them for not using most of the “bike lanes” I’ve seen. Mostly they’re just an extra line drawn on the existing lane that makes both the car and bike “lanes” each too narrow for either. I would at least consider bicycle travel if it were much better than that. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1506 "2024-05-26T18:39:19Z")
And let’s ignore that you get more room, and get preference in many ways? (Like, if the flight is cancelled, they TAKE CARE of the first class passengers.) And just worry about what tableware you’ll get? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1507 "2024-05-26T18:41:06Z")
I see cyclists in bike lanes all the time. There are intersections where i routinely need to wait for cyclists to pass before i can turn right. I’ve never seen a cyclist going the wrong way in a designated bike lane, either. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1508 "2024-05-26T19:19:25Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I’ve yet to witness a single bicyclist using the bike lane, anywhere. In SF, along the embarcadero, there was a bike lane, but the cyclists prefered the sidewalk. From what I was told, they killed one small dog and put an elderly lady in the hospital. They claimed it was “safer”. 🙄 > [@suranyi](#): > > I guess it depends where you live. Where I am (suburb of San Francisco) bicycle lanes are not heavily used, but I do see a cyclist on them occasionally. Exactly. Yes, I had some, the only one I remember was from my Aunt, it was a very soft skunk I named “skunky”. Very original. I got rid of them all. BUT my wife and friends noticed i like wolves, so I have received several wold plushies, which I keep. > [@suranyi](#): > > I’ve been skipping all of the (many!) polls about urine cups. I mean, WTF? The first one was Okay, the rest went too far. > [@DCnDC](#): > > And I’m not a cyclist, I might even gripe about cyclists from time to time, but frankly I don’t blame them for not using most of the “bike lanes” I’ve seen. Then what should they use? Not the sidewalk I hope. We do have one locally, it is very wide, it is rarely used, but at least only little kids use the sidewalk instead- which is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1509 "2024-05-26T19:27:28Z")
I named one of my stuffed animals but it was really a description more than a name. I named him teddy dog because my very young mind said that teddy bears were the only stuffed animal, but he was a dog. (and all dogs are boys) I don’t think I ever addressed him as such and I never talked to him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1510 "2024-05-26T20:53:55Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I’ve yet to witness a single bicyclist using the bike lane, anywhere. In this particular city where I happen to be spending a lot of time, there are lots and lots of bike lanes, and they are somewhat lightly used. One of the reasons for that is that the city decided to paint them in an area that bicyclists call the “door zone”: cars are parked just inside the bike lane, so a cyclists runs something of a risk of getting “doored” by a driver getting out of the car they just parked.        Getting doored is seriously bad. A cyclist wants to ride at a decent speed, which often exceeds 15mph. Running into a car door at that speed often leads to major injury or sometimes death. It does not happen often, but in most cases, one time is plenty. The other reason cyclists avoid the bike lanes is that they reside in the drivers’ blind spots. A motorist may see a bike in the bike lane, but a motorist has the spatial awareness of an infant and the memory of a goldfish. A bicyclist who is not in the lane of traffic almost instantly becomes non-existent once passed, which leads to what is called the “right hook”, where the car turns in front of the bike that was just passed. The traffic lane _seems_ more dangerous from an intuitive perspective, but bicycles are actually very rarely rear-ended in the lane, because drivers see them there and drivers are mostly not psychopathic. This here city has lots of streets, though. Bicyclists who want to get somewhere, alive, simply avoid the streets with bike lanes as much as possible. There is almost always a better way to get through town than the arterials, and some of the lesser streets are even designated as bicycle-priority. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1511 "2024-05-26T21:00:24Z")
I don’t remember naming any stuffed animals, but my parents have told me I named all the pillows in the house. I only vaguely remember a corduroy pillow named Whoop. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1512 "2024-05-26T21:20:41Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Mostly they’re just an extra line drawn on the existing lane that makes both the car and bike “lanes” each too narrow for either. In my area of the city, they’ve recently installed permanent “cones” blocking the bike lane from traffic…which is a very good thing because these streets are pretty narrow. I can remember biking to the beach as a kid, and the one main street was only two lanes (one each direction) with ditches on either side. The trucks that passed us liked to get really close so that we’d end up in the ditch. Bastards. I had a stuffed chimp called Zippy, but he came with a t-shirt that said “Zip” so he probably doesn’t count. We had a stuffy black cat hand puppet called Inky, and my mom made us a Native American soft stuffed doll and called her Laughing Water. I don’t know if it’s because they had names, but I loved those two. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1513 "2024-05-26T21:59:04Z")
I had a white teddy bear called Benbow. I don’t remember who named him. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1514 "2024-05-27T01:58:22Z")
What would it mean for cyclists to treat bike lanes as “two-way”? Some cyclists going the wrong direction? I’ve only seen bikes being ridden on the wrong side of the road on roads without bike lanes, ftr. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1515 "2024-05-27T04:04:19Z")
We just finished our basement, so i guess we have a lot more square feet of space than we used to. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1516 "2024-05-27T04:18:31Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > The bedpan is probably not going to be food safe plastic There are plastic bed pans? …Googling… Yes, of course there are. I’d only been aware of the stainless steel kind. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1517 "2024-05-27T04:19:30Z")
Last October I created a [poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/4076) about when, if ever, a midcentury American subdivision will be designated an historic district. Well, Sacramento now has such a district. So those of you who picked “within the next 10 years” were correct, unless there was a midcentury that already existed when I created the poll. And the plurality who said they didn’t think such a neighborhood would ever be granted historic status were _wrong_. > **[New Sacramento historic district recognizes mid-century homes by developer...](https://sacramentocityexpress.com/2024/05/22/new-sacramento-historic-district-recognizes-mid-century-homes-by-architect-joseph-eichler/)** > > Members of the Sacramento City Council on Tuesday designated a new historic district in South Land Park Hills. The “South Land Park Hills (Eichler) Historic District” features mid-century modern homes constructed in the 1950s by real estate developer... ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1518 "2024-05-27T04:25:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > This here city has lots of streets, though. Bicyclists who want to get somewhere, alive, simply avoid the streets with bike lanes as much as possible. As long as they stay off the sidewalks. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1519 "2024-05-27T04:27:19Z")
I agree. Sidewalks are dangerous for everyone when bikes are on them. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1520 "2024-05-27T08:38:00Z")
I have no idea of the area of my house. I’d guess it’s quite small. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1521 "2024-05-27T15:06:43Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > I have no idea of the area of my house. I had a rough idea, but I looked my house up on Zillow – which is probably still a bit of an educated guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=75) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636.md?page=77)