# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1542 "2024-05-28T00:05:06Z")

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Hot dogs as opposed to various superior sausage-onna-bun/stick options are something I almost always avoid, but I can and have stood a few Hebrew National Franks if need be. In order grilled \> pan fried \> air fried, as I like a touch of char on my hot dogs to add some damn texture.

I think part of the problem is that most (by no means all) hot dogs are low cost, low quality, and served with buns, sides, and toppings of equally low quality. Which is why I never say an absolute “No” to ketchup (Heinz only please) as a possible crutch.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1543 "2024-05-28T00:26:10Z")

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I’ll admit, I kind of like the New York pushcart “dirty water dog”.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1544 "2024-05-28T01:18:29Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Yeah, the separation between the “practical” and the “social” in that poll were so artificial, and of course, excluding the middle, makes it near valueless. I mean, given the choice, the candidate who excels on the practical manner is going to run a great nation for (heavily implied) straight white Christian men, and the rest are going to be second class citizens at best, locked up or killed at worst.
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> So it doesn’t matter to ME how good they’re going to be at running things if I’m dead or locked up, as I miss on one of those categories.

I miss on at least two of them; and I find the current results of the poll pretty unnerving.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1545 "2024-05-28T02:11:12Z")

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I have to admit, my top concerns are environmental (climate change) and healthcare (universal coverage), so a candidate that hit those issues would be hard to resist.

Admittedly, I’m a straight white male. Not Christian, though.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1546 "2024-05-28T03:28:15Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> I have no idea of the area of my house.  
> I’d guess it’s quite small.

I’m not exactly sure the square footage of my house, but given it’s a boring box, I know just from measuring the length and width it’s somewhere in the neighborhood of 1100 square feet.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1547 "2024-05-28T06:21:38Z")

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_Cook_ hotdogs?

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**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1548 "2024-05-28T16:05:07Z")

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Eeww, you eat them _cold_??

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1549 "2024-05-28T16:09:06Z")

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They are just bologna in a slightly different shape.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1550 "2024-05-28T16:50:50Z")

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Death Timer. I should be able to quickly deduce whether it was an accident or a chronic illness that will do the trick: if I get a thorough checkup, eat super-healthy or stop with any noxious substances for a solid month, and/or lose a lot of weight, if I then see the timer going forward in time, then I’ll know it was health-related. If it doesn’t budge a single second, that likely means an accident (or murder, or even suicide…) will be the culprit.

If I suspect an accident, should I check it before I leave on any sort of trip? Cancel the trip, see if it goes up, or down? Change the destination and check for a change? Or is the device absolutely immune to any such manipulations? Do we run into one of those timeline paradoxes where, if I were to see such a change and would thus alter my plans as a result, it never actually budges at all since it already KNEW what alternative I would choose, but if it doesn’t change then I’m not changing my plans, so it HAS to change so I will, but it actually won’t, and aarrggh…[/brain hurts]

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1551 "2024-05-28T17:07:02Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Or is the device absolutely immune to any such manipulations?

Yeah, that was what I had in mind when crafting the poll. The timers are always 100% accurate. They only count down; there’s nothing you can do to alter the outcome.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1552 "2024-05-28T17:07:36Z")

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There is one (very public) person in particular that I would be very interested in firing up the death timer for.

Aside from that I think I would only use my powers on random strangers.

And never on someone under the age of 25 or so.

mmm

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1553 "2024-05-28T18:43:43Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> Yeah, that was what I had in mind when crafting the poll. The timers are always 100% accurate. They only count down; there’s nothing you can do to alter the outcome.

Does this mean free will is obviated? The future is locked into stone? No matter how many pounds a grossly obese person loses, the timer never budges? Or, rather, they cannot even lose a single ounce in such a scenario, no matter what the timer tells them?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1554 "2024-05-28T18:44:04Z")

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I won the Death Pool once and it was glorious. I would definitely use the timer for that

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1555 "2024-05-28T19:02:48Z")

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It means that nothing you can do will hasten or delay the time of death. If you’re an obese person with 2 years left, you can choose to eat healthier and exercise more, but you will end up dying in 2 years anyway, perhaps due to some other ailment, accident, or misadventure. If you’re a healthy person with 50 years left, you can start engaging in highly risky behaviour, such as jumping out of airplanes without a parachute, but you’ll most likely just end up putting yourself into a 50-year coma.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1556 "2024-05-28T19:36:43Z")

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I don’t want any of those changes in sleep periods. Any of them would screw me up relative to daylight, relative to farming, and relative to almost anything I do involving other people.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1557 "2024-05-29T01:02:05Z")

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The unlisted Other: I often skim past the genie questions after reading the premise.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1558 "2024-05-29T01:31:53Z")

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> [@Reeses\_Monkey](#):
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> Eeww, you eat them _cold_??

According to [our poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/3186), 19% of Dopers eat cold uncooked hot dogs.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1559 "2024-05-29T02:40:15Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> Last October I created a [poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/4076) about when, if ever, a midcentury American subdivision will be designated an historic district.

Yeah, Eichlers are historic. Cool houses, too. I spent a week in one once.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1560 "2024-05-29T03:41:52Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t want any of those changes in sleep periods. Any of them would screw me up relative to daylight, relative to farming, and relative to almost anything I do involving other people.

Yeah, i thought about which might mess me up least, but they all sound like a solid downgrade to quality of life.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1561 "2024-05-29T15:05:30Z")

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I have no idea what the Trump jury is going to do. (I know what I hope they’ll do, but that’s not the same question.)

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