# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1562 "2024-05-30T10:32:32Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Yeah, the separation between the “practical” and the “social” in that poll were so artificial, and of course, excluding the middle, makes it near valueless. I mean, given the choice, the candidate who excels on the practical manner is going to run a great nation for (heavily implied) straight white Christian men, and the rest are going to be second class citizens at best, locked up or killed at worst.

Were I a more cynical type, I might suspect the poster of that poll of deliberately trying to engineer a perception of caring about equality and human rights as being antithetical to making “practical” decisions, whereas in reality those obsessed with persecuting minorities, women etc have tended to undermine their own effectiveness. Note that the same poster gave us the “debating Trump” question that somehow left out all the “losing against Trump” options.

That said, the thread is filled with all sorts of ridiculous hypotheticals, so there’s nothing wrong with posting such a poll as long as one is willing to accept the vast excluded middle inherent in it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1563 "2024-05-30T22:55:44Z")

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150 lbs I have a better than even chance of rescue. It does depend on the area and terrain which will determine the angles. The weight isn’t too much.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1564 "2024-05-30T23:17:55Z")

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I’d ask the guy if he knew the lyrics to “High Speed Dirt” by Megadeath.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1565 "2024-05-30T23:23:09Z")

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I’m going to make encouraging noises, call for help, and look for some sort of rope or anything else that looks useful. I might pull my belt off, if I can’t find anything better, and try to loop it over their arm (they’d better not let go of their handhold) and lie down flat and hold the other end, to take a bit of the weight off them and add encouragement – but there’s no way these days, and probably never was, that I can pull them up; and I’m holding that belt so I can let go if I have to, because there’s no sense us both going over.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1566 "2024-05-31T00:05:38Z")

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My health and physical capability have declined as I got older. 15 years ago I could have hauled that dude up no problem. Now not so much.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1567 "2024-05-31T00:09:56Z")

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Re: wearing glasses at the dentist. They always have me wear shaded goggle-ish glasses, so I don’t wear my glasses at the dentist.

I have poor upper body strength and arthritis in my knees. All I could hope for was buying the poor person some time.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1568 "2024-05-31T00:58:42Z")

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The 150-pound person would be even heavier than me. I’d do all I could to save them, but there’s a very high risk they’re going to end up pulling both of us over the precipice if I have nothing to wedge my feet against the direction of the fall.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1569 "2024-05-31T01:01:40Z")

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Why would I remove my glasses during a dental procedure? If there’s any splashing I want them in place to protect my eyes. What’s the downside to wearing my glasses?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1570 "2024-05-31T01:02:56Z")

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Most dentists typically give you sunglasses to replace yours, to keep the spit and also because of bright lights used.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1571 "2024-05-31T01:04:17Z")

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Interesting. I’ve never had a dentist do that.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1572 "2024-05-31T01:08:35Z")

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I’ve never had a dentist do that either. The type of light my dentist uses seems very focused so that it illuminates my mouth (I presume) but doesn’t shine in my eyes at all.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1573 "2024-05-31T01:21:37Z")

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I just keep my eyes closed. If I have even been offered shades I don’t remember because I wouldn’t have bothered

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1574 "2024-05-31T01:39:10Z")

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My dentist gives me a pair of oversized glasses that cover my glasses. They are also tinted to mitigate the glare of the spotlight over the chair.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1575 "2024-05-31T01:43:37Z")

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What prompted my dentist visit questions was today’s dental visit.

I usually remove my glasses, but for some reason I left them on today.

The dental assistant gave me tinted glasses, as described by others. This is the first time in my hundreds of dental appointments over my lifetime that this has happened.

mmm

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1576 "2024-05-31T03:50:00Z")

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I always removed my glasses at the dentist before I switched to contacts. They’ve got that big-assed shining light aimed right at my face (so they can see what they’re doing), so my eyes will be closed. If I’m closing my eyes, why do I need my glasses? Please put them on the counter, so any spittle that may eject from my mouth doesn’t make them dirty.

Dirty glasses drive me nuts. I still don’t know how **Squeaky** can see through his filthy glasses.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1577 "2024-05-31T04:45:51Z")

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I am pretty terrified of precipices. I walked to the edge of the roof at work, and even though it had a two foot tall lip around it, and even though it was only two stories down, it still made me extremely uncomfortable. I doubt I would be able to help the guy hanging off the cliff because I would not be able to get near the edge myself.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1578 "2024-05-31T09:19:40Z")

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The dental hygienist puts my glasses on the counter. I’ve never seen tinted glasses to put over my own glasses at my dentist.

I normally keep my eyes closed due to the bright light.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1579 "2024-05-31T13:58:53Z")

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My name’s uncommon around here, anyway. So I picked that one.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1580 "2024-05-31T14:00:41Z")

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I’m trained in high angle rescues; first thing is scene size up.

- Who is it? A loved one to save (all bets may be off) or a stranger\*?
- Why are they over the edge? Did they climb over the glass wall at the Grand Canyon [Skywalk](https://media.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2011/05/03/scaled.0503_Web_GrandCanyonWest.030_t1200.JPG) or something similar which I would expect to take my weight or where they just standing 10-20’ from the edge when a mudslide occurred, in which case the ground may not be stable/safe & my going close is liable to send us _both_ plummeting to our deaths?
- Can I walk over to them or should I lay down & inchworm my way to them, spreading my body weight out over a larger surface area on the ground?

If I was _dispatched_ to the above scenario, we wouldn’t get anywhere near the edge until we have established fall protection, wearing a (Level III) harness & are tied off to the rig, a solid tree, etc. & ideally, have a second person confirm everything is as it should be - buckles buckled, zippers zipped, nothing twisted, proper knot(s) **&** safety knot, edge guards for ropes (you never want to have a life-safety rope going over a sharp edge - roof, rock, etc. if at all possible as it could abrade the rope - rollers or heavy-duty curved plastic is put over the sharp object to prevent the rope from being damaged)  
  
  
-\* I’ve always learned that your responsibilities are in the following order:

1. Yourself - make it home alive, in one piece & uninjured
2. Your Partner(s) - get them home alive & uninjured if possible
3. Patient/victim(s) - after all, if they were having a _good_ day they wouldn’t have called us to come out to play in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1581 "2024-05-31T14:09:31Z")

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I think I’ve said it before. My surname is very uncommon for a non-asian person, but has a very conventional spelling. Before people meet me, they usually spell my name in the typical Asian spelling. After they meet me, they think they’d misheard my name.

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