# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
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It’s Blue Line in Daly City. There’s one in Burlingame too, maybe others.  
@squeegee, they do serve a thin crust too, but I haven’t tried it. There’s a place called Capo’s near Vallejo and Columbus that allegedly has good tavern-style thin, but I haven’t tried that either.

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> It’s Blue Line in Daly City. There’s one in Burlingame too, maybe others.

Aha, I’ve been to a Blue Line in Campbell several years ago (I live near Santa Cruz now). It was decent (thin) pizza, but I wouldn’t consider it tavern style at all. Floppy/puffy NYC style, which they’re good at but it’s just not that other thing.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/143 "2024-02-23T18:18:01Z")

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Hm, I have an appointment this afternoon that’s less than a mile from the Burlingame Blue Line. Maybe I’ll have an early dinner today.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> t might be the only choice that I’ve never heard of on pizza. I’m willing to try it, but as far as I know, never had the option.

I’m not sure if I’ve had all the other options, either; but I’ve certainly never had that one.

If somebody offered me some, I’d try it. Maybe the next time I make a pizza I’ll try it on a portion.

I don’t follow Star Wars enough to know anything about the colors of lightsabers.

I don’t know whether creativity can be taught. It can be squashed or encouraged; but whether it can be taught to somebody not showing it naturally I have no idea. I don’t even know whether there are humans who have none of it naturally; at least, among those with at least mostly-functioning brains.

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Right - nerd time. Lightsabers and blasters do not use lasers. IIRC, a lightsaber is some sort of plasma. Its color is determined by the kyber crystal used in its build. Bad guys all have red lightsabers because they use synthetic kyber crystals, as do not have access to natural ones.

Blasters are high-energy projectile weapons.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
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I don’t think creativity can be taught directly, but it can be nurtured through exposure to a wide variety of creative works

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> [@Allecher](#):
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> I’m surprised how few had experienced honey on pizza. I had hot honey on pepperoni pizza and really enjoyed the sweet and sour aspect of it!

I never heard of it until I had it a couple months ago. We were at a family gathering and they told me how good it was. I didn’t have to waste money on something I didn’t like so I gave it a try. It was pretty damn good.

In case anyone is confused, the honey isn’t warmed up it’s infused with chilies.

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I’ve been at a table with hot honey pizza. But I don’t like “spicy”, so I don’t think I tried it.

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’ve been at a table with hot honey pizza. But I don’t like “spicy”, so I don’t think I tried it.

The one I had was tasty but not overly hot. Just a nice flavor combo.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/150 "2024-02-24T02:37:32Z")

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“Not overly hot” means it’s spicy enough for that to detract from the food, imho. (I also despise the flavor of hot peppers. I actually dislike them less if they don’t have much flavor beyond “hot”, but I also dislike “hot”. I enjoy black pepper, ginger, and many other seasonings. But I don’t get “spicy” food. Why should I want food that hurts?)

I understand that other people like it. I even sometimes cook (for other people) with the stuff. But I don’t want to eat it myself. There were other enticing pizzas at the table, and I ate well.

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> It’s the same reason people like pineapple on pizza, but for some reason the legions crying out against honey have yet to appear.

That’s because we hadn’t heard of it yet. Consider this an outcry.

I want a red light saber because I think it just looks cool. I guess that makes me a bad guy or whatever, but I just like red! (I’m continuing to be bitter that the Republican Party ended up with red. Blue is fine, I _guess_, but no one asked me if it was what I wanted to identify with forever.)

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> “Not overly hot” means it’s spicy enough for that to detract from the food, imho. (I also despise the flavor of hot peppers. I actually dislike them less if they don’t have much flavor beyond “hot”, but I also dislike “hot”. I enjoy black pepper, ginger, and many other seasonings. But I don’t get “spicy” food. Why should I want food that hurts?)
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> I understand that other people like it. I even sometimes cook (for other people) with the stuff. But I don’t want to eat it myself. There were other enticing pizzas at the table, and I ate well.

I don’t mind food that hurts but not too much. This didn’t hurt at all. No more than the pepperoni itself. It was just a surprising but good blend of flavors. The honey was still sweet and not heavily applied. The sauce was flavorful. If you think pepperoni is too spicy then it’s not for you.

There may be examples that are much hotter. I only tried it from one place. It wasn’t hot.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> If you think pepperoni is too spicy then it’s not for you.

Yup. I can eat pepperoni, but the “spicy” makes it unpleasant.

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At my wedding the question about “speaking now” was not part of it. But after the vows the minister made two statements. One said that if we knew anything “that would divide our heart and sould from each other” we were to forget it. And the second statement told the congregation that if from now on anyone would try to seperate us “they will be doing so at the peril of offending a creation of God”

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I’ve heard a variation of the “speak now” statement at several weddings, but they were all pre-1980. We didn’t include it in our vows because we knew our friends a little too well.

I just looked up the marriage vows as written in the Service Book and Hymnal of the Evangelical Lutheran Church (copyright 1958), and the wording there is, “If anyone, therefore, can show just cause why they may not be lawfully joined together, let him now speak, or else forever hold his peace.”

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I’ve been to a lot of weddings. I have no idea if that was part of the ceremony at any of them.

The most interesting vows I’ve heard included a promise to “worship you with my body”. That was at a wiccan wedding.

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I always understood this was more about grandma coming forward to announce that they’re actually third cousins, but didn’t realize, or whatever relationship is just inside the bounds of forbidden. If you’re in a jurisdiction where first cousins can marry, there’s little point.

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I always understood “why they may not be **lawfully** joined together” as “one of them is already married or engaged to someone else”. One could frequently get away with marrying a first cousin. The authorities tended to tread bigamy more harshly.

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I, also, thought the “expected” objection was “Alex is already married to Pat, and can’t marry someone else right now.”

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> [@InternetLegend](#):
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> I’m continuing to be bitter that the Republican Party ended up with red

Odd thing, that. Somewhere back in the 1980s or 90s, the colors flipped. You can tell because the expression “Blue dog Democrat” still sometimes gets used to describe a Democrat who is on the conservative edge of the party and sometimes votes with the Rs. Red was considered the liberal-commie color and the good guys were the blue-blood patriots. Why it flipped is not clear.

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