# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636 "2024-02-16T02:56:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1942 "2024-06-28T19:04:30Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> In my recent experience the Airblade style dryers are much more common than the old fashioned kind. I’m surprised that anyone hasn’t seen them.

Maybe I go into fewer places than most people. But I think also that the places I do go into are less likely than some to spend money replacing functional hand dryers with the newest version.

At any rate, now if I see one I’ll know what it is and how to use it – and also know that there are paper towels available, which I’ll use instead; at least unless I hear somebody else using the thing and decide that the noise is a lot more bearable.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Waist-high for a normal adult.

Waist-high for a “normal” adult actually varies considerably. Waist-high on my neighbor is more like armpit high on me. He’s tall, but not extraordinarily so; I’m short, but not extraordinarily so.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1943 "2024-06-28T19:26:45Z")

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I was at an event recently and someone had made realistic looking stickers and placed them on the hand-dryers that said, Voice activated: say, “hot air”.

I was the only one in the men’s, so I missed out.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1944 "2024-06-28T19:30:38Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> But I think also that the places I do go into are less likely than some to spend money replacing functional hand dryers with the newest version.

The old style blow driers never really were functional, though, and the new style are. My guess is that every public restroom that’s been renovated in the past 15 years has the new ones, because there’s less waste and trash if people don’t use paper towels.

They are noisy. If that’s your concern, you won’t like them. But you don’t have to stand in front of them nearly as long. I’m an average-height woman (5’6") and find the height is typically very comfortable. I didn’t really know what range of heights works in them.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1945 "2024-06-28T19:38:12Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> at least unless I hear somebody else using the thing and decide that the noise is a lot more bearable.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> They are noisy.

I was recently in a restroom that had the jet engine-type dryers. As I headed toward the machine with hands a-drippin’, I noticed there was a dad with a young baby on the changing table a few feet away in mid diaper change. I changed direction and headed for the towel dispenser to dry my hands instead. The young father thanked me profusely.

mmm

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1946 "2024-06-28T19:44:17Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Yeah, a 12 year old boy seduced his 41 year old English teacher. Have mercy.

"Sam, a 40 year old teacher, and Alex a 17 year old in Sam’s class " that was the hypothetical, you have really moved the goalposts here. Dont be ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1947 "2024-06-28T19:52:15Z")

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It’s ridiculous to think that a 17 year old seduced a 40 year old. They may both have the hots for each other, but the 40 year old is an adult and ought to know how to control themselves.

And teachers have a ton of authority over students.

Yeah, that’s just a ridiculous notion.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1948 "2024-06-28T21:03:09Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’m an average-height woman (5’6")

Nope. You’re tall (ish). Average height for an American woman is 5’3.5".

ETA: I’m holding onto to 5’3" with the tippy tips of my fingernails.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1949 "2024-06-28T21:15:25Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> They are noisy. If that’s your concern, you won’t like them.

It’s partly the amount of noise, and partly the type of noise. Some frequencies really grate on me. Though I think with a lot of air dryers it’s also the amount, especially in an enclosed space that usually has lousy acoustics.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1950 "2024-06-28T22:56:46Z")

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You need a special wasp spray to deal with them. Get goggle, long sleeve shirt, pants, etc- hat- then use the special spray on a cold nite. Then knock the nest into a plastic garbage bag with a long tool.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1951 "2024-06-28T23:35:54Z")

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Nope. I think removal of a basketball-size wasp nest ranks at the very bottom of household chores I would want to do myself, much less several of them. And one that big will have multiple hundreds of aggressive and pissed-off insects inside, maybe a thousand, not a hundred. No spank you - spank you very much!

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1952 "2024-06-29T00:10:19Z")

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I can’t answer the wasp one. First, i have lots of experience with wasps. Second, I’d either do it for free, as a favor, or i wouldn’t do it at all. I don’t charge friends for doing random shit that isn’t my primary occupation.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1953 "2024-06-29T01:24:00Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> They are placed at a height that 90% of the users would have no problem with them.

I’ve seen ones placed lower for children, typically in museums, similar to [this](https://www.bluedry.co.uk/shop/blue-dry-jet-blade/) one. Some kids think they’re fun.

Pre-Covid, they had removed the paper towels from the bathrooms at work and we only had the blade air dryers. In 2020/1 they installed paper towels again.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1954 "2024-06-29T02:40:52Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’m an average-height woman (5’6") and find the height is typically very comfortable. I didn’t really know what range of heights works in them.

I’m 5’2" (I don’t care what the doctor said) and the ones I’ve used were well within my comfort range.

> [@carrps](#):
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> Nope. You’re tall (ish). Average height for an American woman is 5’3.5".

Really? Could they let clothing manufacturers know that? Because most clothes for medium height women are more than 2 inches too long on me

Also, I am still one of the shorter people in most groups.

Idea - that probably includes women with osteoporosis who have lost height due to that.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1955 "2024-06-29T03:03:54Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I can’t answer the wasp one. First, i have lots of experience with wasps.

Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have answered it; because my experience is that if you get them good and wet with a hose, they can’t do much of anything other than stagger around. If you’ve got a good high pressure nozzle, after you’ve soaked the nest you can probably knock it off the wall with the hose. And they seem to think it’s a natural disaster – they don’t appear to connect a person standing 20 feet away behind a hose with what’s happening to their nest; so any that don’t get sprayed don’t attack.

– I’m just shy of 5’2" and almost everyone shorter than me is either under 12 or over 80. I think they haven’t recalculated that average female height in a while.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1956 "2024-06-29T04:07:48Z")

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Even if you poke a nest with a long stick, they’ll attack the stick but not the person holding the stick. Then they will think they are attacked, and they’ll attach back if you get close. But they don’t connect the person over there with the stick even though they are connected.

I’ve removed lots of small wasp nests by hand, that is I’ve just put a jar around them and sealed it with my bare hands. Large nests require a little more care. But wait aren’t that hard to manage.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
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I’ve taken down many wasp nests, with and without spray. I do it at night, wearing a headlight. Enclose the nest in a heavy duty contractor bag. Secure. Place in dumpster.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1958 "2024-06-29T14:37:26Z")

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I’m allergic to wasp stings, so I avoid them at all costs.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1959 "2024-06-29T15:14:01Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’ve taken down many wasp nests, with and without spray. I do it at night, wearing a headlight. Enclose the nest in a heavy duty contractor bag. Secure. Place in dumpster.

Exactly what I do, except I don’t have a headlamp. Easy peasy.

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**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-2/997636/1960 "2024-06-29T15:22:21Z")

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I’m not going near any nests. I’m allergic to stings, which is probably why that chapter of _The Shining_ did such a number on me when I read it as a young teen.

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I ain’t what I ought to be.  
I ain’t what I want to be.  
I ain’t what I’m gonna be.  
But I’m damned grateful I ain’t what I used to be.

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