# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 3)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 29, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157 "2026-01-29T18:21:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)
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_Network_ might just be the best movie I’ve ever seen. If you haven’t seen it yet, I recommend you do! And if you have seen it, I can heartily recommend Dave Itzkoff’s 2014 book _Mad as Hell: The Making of_ Network _and the Fateful Vision of the Angriest Man in Movies_.

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### Author: ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)
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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I did the first before reading the second.
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> I didn’t bother to go back and change my vote.

I guess I knew there was going to be two polls because I had already seen the broken polls @John_DiFool posted before voting in @puzzlegal’s fixed polls.

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### Author: ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1223 "2026-04-19T02:15:51Z")

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I was 13 in 1976 and my parents were going through a divorce. I saw _every_ movie that year. The four or five I didn’t check must not have made it to Orange County, CA.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1224 "2026-04-19T03:13:23Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I would not have guessed _Logan’s Run_ would be the most-seen movie from 1976.

We really liked that film back then.

But when i watched it recently, the ending made me go “What? They have no skills, no food, nothing, they are all gonna die, horribly”.

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### Author: ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1225 "2026-04-19T12:08:58Z")

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When I was 11, I read the novelization of _The Omen_ during a beach holiday, and it included a few (black and white) photos, so I _feel_ like I’ve seen the film, but I haven’t. It’s on the current list of “let’s maybe watch this soon” for my household (me, wife, teen kid).

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### Author: ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1226 "2026-04-19T13:02:42Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I just want to point out that including both “American Motors” and “AMC” in the car poll is redundant. AMC stands for “American Motors Corporation” and is the exact same thing as American Motors.

This threw me off. Am I supposed to choose both?

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### Author: ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1227 "2026-04-19T13:38:55Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I guess I knew there was going to be two polls because I had already seen the broken polls @John_DiFool posted before voting in @puzzlegal’s fixed polls.

Thanks are in order to @Puzzlegal; I honestly don’t know wtf happened there, never even knew FORCED choice was even an option, just cranked what I thought were the _allowed_ votes up to N-2 just like I always have done.

I was going off of [this list from Motor Trend](https://www.motortrend.com/features/automotive-history-car-brands-that-have-come-and-gone-past-75-years), where they mentioned “American Motors Corporation” at the top, but in the list they called it “American Motors”, so I assumed they were two different companies.

Surprises: No Lexus, Hummers (we are mostly enviros here natch I’d imagine), Genesis, or Scion (I see those latter two all the time, at least in Florida if not Ohio).

I assume in @Little_Nemo 's poll that “Cannonball” = “The Cannonball Run”.

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### Author: ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1228 "2026-04-19T13:50:59Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> just cranked what I thought were the _allowed_ votes up to N-2 just like I always have done.

There are two numbers, max and min. You edited the wrong one. Easy error to make. Copying your polls and editing those two numbers was very easy.

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### Author: ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1229 "2026-04-19T13:51:30Z")

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Mucho thanks in any event. 😎

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### Author: ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1230 "2026-04-19T14:04:43Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I assume in @Little_Nemo 's poll that “Cannonball” = “The Cannonball Run”.

If so, count me as one more vote for that timeless ouvre.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1231 "2026-04-19T14:12:17Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I assume in @Little_Nemo 's poll that “Cannonball” = “The Cannonball Run”.

Actually, no, it’s a completely different movie, though based on the same topic: the [real-life Cannonball Baker coast-to-coast race](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Baker_Sea-to-Shining-Sea_Memorial_Trophy_Dash).

“[Cannonball](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074279/?ref_=fn_t_2)” came out in 1976 (as did all of the movies in that poll), and starred David Carradine, Victoria Hamel, and Robert Carradine. It was apparently a low-budget, small-studio movie.

FWIW, _another_ movie in that poll, “The Gumball Rally”, was _also_ about that race.

“[The Cannonball Run](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082136/)” – the more famous one – came out in 1981, and starred Burt Reynolds, Dom DeLuise, Farrah Fawcett, and a ton of other stars.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Victoria Hamel

Sorry…_Veronica_ Hamel. 😉

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1233 "2026-04-19T14:38:16Z")

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Kenobi’s right.

The only thing I’d add is that was there was another movie in the genre, _Deathrace 2000_, which had been released in 1975. It was directed by Paul Bartel and starred David Carradine, who would team up again for _Cannonball_ a year later. It also featured Sylvester Stallone, right before his breakout role in _Rocky_.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1234 "2026-04-19T14:44:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The only thing I’d add is that was there was another movie in the genre, _Deathrace 2000_, which had been released in 1975. It was directed by Paul Bartel and starred David Carradine, who would team up again for _Cannonball_ a year later.

Carradine was one of the kings of the B-movies – particularly the action movies – in the '70s.

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### Author: ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1235 "2026-04-19T14:49:08Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Surprises: No Lexus, Hummers (we are mostly enviros here natch I’d imagine), Genesis, or Scion (I see those latter two all the time, at least in Florida if not Ohio).

I assumed that the poll was asking about the civilian version. I’ve driven a HMMWV many times. I also never owned a Chevrolet but I drove a CUCV many times.

It kind of surprised me how many different brands I had to click. Many because of what various long term partners had. I was able to vote for BMW because I had a 730. Not that impressive when you know it was passed down through many GIs and had huge rust holes. It ran good until something went in the heating system. Sold it for $500.

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1236 "2026-04-19T14:53:01Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Johanna](#):
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> > It’s been my lifelong dream to see the green flash.
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> Mine, too. Ever since I read that Travis McGee book way back when I was in my 20s.

Ditto, except that in my case it was one of Dan Gallery’s books, when I was in my teens.

> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> A red VW Cabroilet was _much_ easier to find.

The same with my red Subaru wagon. We replaced it with a Hyundai that vanished in the hordes of other silver-grey sedans; standard plates, as we decided the extra charge for submarine plates, but I put submarine dolphin stickers on both ends of both bumpers to make it easier to find.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I don’t remember whether I’ve ever used Mercurochrome.

Sometimes we had Mercurochrome, sometimes we had Merthiolate.

> [@DesertDog](#):
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> The only other mark on it is a Ukranian _tryzub_ in black and white.

I would have thought that was an anchor.

I was in junior high when I was introduced to Ray Rayner and Garfield Goose (having just moved in from out of state), and high school when Sesame Street came out. When I was a kid my favourite show was a local show called _Chuck’s Alley_ (later changed to _Al E Khatt and the Mayor_), but I didn’t get to watch it often because it was on at the same time as _Mickey Mouse Club_ and my sister was bigger than I was.

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### Author: ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1237 "2026-04-19T16:17:14Z")

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More surprises for those makes which did get votes: Mercedes 2%, Mini 2%, & Tesla 2% (given the several long threads on them here and the enviro contingent as I indicated earlier).

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### Author: ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1238 "2026-04-19T16:20:53Z")

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I’d guess that the subset of posters who answer the polls aren’t completely representative.

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### Author: ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)
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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I would have thought that was an anchor.

It’s a trident.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2026, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1240 "2026-04-19T18:49:57Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Surprises: No Lexus, Hummers (we are mostly enviros here natch I’d imagine), Genesis, or Scion

Genesis is a newer brand, and IIRC Scion has come and gone, not to mention most people would just say Toyota.

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