# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 3)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 29, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157 "2026-01-29T18:21:35Z")
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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
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> [@pjd](#):
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> Does it need normal butter as well as PB ?  
> Does it matter if the PB is salted ?

Shouldn’t need butter. And most peanut butter here in the US is salted, so that’d be the norm.

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### Author: ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
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I switched from peanut butter and jelly to peanut butter and raisins when I was in college. Figuring what the heck, it’s grapes anyway. Some years later, as long as I was using dried fruit, I switched to peanut butter and dates. That turned out to be the perfect combo. So my “Other” response to the poll is peanut butter and dates on whole wheat.

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Huh, is Hawaii on the same Continental plate as Oceania?

No. It is, however, on the same oceanic plate as most of Oceania.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> For that matter, is there a Continental plate that corresponds to Australia/NZ/Micronesia/etc?

The Australian plate includes Oz, bits of southern New Guinea, and the northwestern third or so of New Zealand. Micronesia, southern New Zealand and most of Melanesia are on the Pacific plate. And there a couple of minor plates in there, too.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Hawaii seems clearly part of Polynesia, both culturally and geographically. So i guess it ought to be included in Oceania.

I agree.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I dont like peanut butter and _jelly_ - I prefer _jam_ instead.

Ditto. My favourite sandwich, however, is peanut butter and banana.

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### Author: ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)
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> [@Frodo](#):
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> I get it now, it’s a _sweet_ sandwich, something I have never tasted.  
> Now that I understand the general idea it doesn’t sound so disgusting, I’d have to try it.

One caution about a PB&J - if you’re using a commercial American PB, be careful, because far too many (IMHO, YMMV, etc.) have so much added sugar that if adding jam or jelly it can get _unpleasantly_ sweet.

If I’m making a PB&J it’ll be what’s often sold as “Natural” peanut butter, which is just peanuts and salt. It often requires vigorous stirring as the oil tends to separate without the emulsifiers and additives in the commercial stuff, but it’s worth the effort.

I generally like a bittersweet-to-sweet option for my jam, often apricot preserves, tart cherry, or raspberry. My wife is totally on team strawberry and only that. None of us have ever cared for grape though.

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### Author: ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)
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Can’t answer the questions without knowing Inna.

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### Author: ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)
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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> but I’ve never liked jelly donuts.

Yeah you know, me neither. I don’t like the texture, I don’t like the taste of the filling, and I swear they get stale faster than other donuts.

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### Author: ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)
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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> but I’ve never liked jelly donuts.

I don’t much care for them either, but if they’re fresh it’s the only way I can eat any kind of jelly.

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### Author: ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
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If you read my posts on the thread about “dry sandwiches” you will probably understand that i really really dislike the consistency of jelly donuts. That gloopy middle that oozes out when you bite into it is really unpleasant to me.

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> > [@Reeses\_Monkey](#):
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> > Well where _else_ would you put peanut butter?
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> On a spoon, as @Spiderman noted, or on apple slices works as well.

On celery. Or in cookies.

> [@pjd](#):
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> 2 questions …  
> Does it need normal butter as well as PB ?

No!!!

> [@pjd](#):
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> Does it matter if the PB is salted ?

Probably not. I’ve never made one with unsalted PB.

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I generally like a bittersweet-to-sweet option for my jam, often apricot preserves, tart cherry, or raspberry.

👍👍👍👍

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’ve never liked jelly donuts.

Ordinarily, I don’t either. Pączki, however…

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### Author: ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
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Recently, I had a PB&J burger at a new restaurant. It was actually Thai peanut sauce and sweet jalapeno jam, but that’s how I want all my PB&Js from now on.

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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
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If you want a nice change from PB&J, try a peanut butter sandwich with a slice of canned pineapple in it.

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### Author: ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)
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You know, I only mentioned the donuts to illustrate how much I dislike PB&J. I’m really not all that invested in donuts in general. But I Really. Really. Dislike PB&J. I would sooner eat PB and ketchup, and my contempt for tomato ketchup rivals my contempt for jelly. I’m not trying to yuck anyone’s yum. I just don’t like jelly (or ketchup).

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### Author: ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
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I can see that. I sometimes enjoy a nice jam, but i can understand finding it disgusting.

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### Author: ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2026, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1514 "2026-04-30T02:21:13Z")

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On an episode of _Sesame Street_ Oscar the Grouch once ate a peanut butter and pickle sandwich. My brother and I tried it.

If you use sweet pickles, it’s actually pretty good.

> Inna accepted the answer with no more issue…

. . . . yet.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Yeah you know, me neither. I don’t like the texture, I don’t like the taste of the filling, and I swear they get stale faster than other donuts.

And the jam gets out and drips all over your shirt or tie, etc.

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### Author: ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)
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Peanut butter on a hamburger is actually surprisingly tasty.

Obviously IMO.

mmm

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PB&J is classic kid food. That doesn’t mean you can’t eat it if you’re not a kid, but you’re not the target audience. A PB&J sandwich is relatively cheap and filling, can be made by kids themselves from ingredients commonly kept on hand, and doesn’t need refrigeration (making it ideal for packing in sack lunches).

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July 2nd, which is when the resolution on independence was adopted.

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### Author: ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)
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I’ve always though Independence, Fact of, a lot more significant than Independence, Declaration towards. For that matter, 1783 seems more significant than 1776. But creation of a national identity requires some spin on the cold hard facts of history.

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I voted for July 4th. The signing of the constitution makes logical sense but July 4th started to be celebrated as early as July 4th, 1777 in some places. July 4th, 1778 was the first celebration ordered by George Washington (in my old hometown). So logic has nothing to do with it. It was sort of set before the constitution was wasn’t even a thing.

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