# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 29, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157 "2026-01-29T18:21:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1561 "2026-05-03T17:02:04Z")
I’m an independent contractor and get paid by the mile. I don’t think of that as salary because I may drive 800 miles one day and 0 for the next three. My husband works for the local university. He’s on salary. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1562 "2026-05-03T17:03:31Z")
For the income I assumed it meant personal income and not household income. Mostly pension with some hourly income. My wife is on salary. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1563 "2026-05-03T17:04:03Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Re: Powwows. Does Indian Y-Guides count? We 7-year olds appropriated the shit out of stuff like that. I’ve never heard of this. Could you explain what Indian Y-Guides are? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1564 "2026-05-03T17:16:58Z")
Cellphone plan - I voted yes. In part because my data use has been steadily creeping due to it becoming the default for in-car navigation (last car didn’t have it at all). Heck, even with as many options as possible to block auto-played ads, popups, and everything else, I can’t get them all. Thankfully my ‘out of the house’ internet use is split between the phone (mostly nav, calls and navigation) with all the surfing, reading, checking the dope being on my cellular tablet (different bucket of data). * * * I voted yes, spectator on the powwow, but it wasn’t _quite_ that. Growing up in southern NM, I went a couple of times, both as a spectator and on school field trips, to various Pueblo events and celebrations. I figured it was more than close enough a fit, even though it didn’t use the same terminology. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1565 "2026-05-03T18:49:24Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > I’ve never heard of this. Could you explain what Indian Y-Guides are? It was a YMCA father/son scouting program with a Native American theme when I was a kid in the 60s & 70s. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1566 "2026-05-03T23:32:30Z")
Starts at 4:14 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/givVPVGql8Y/maxresdefault.jpg "T-Ball and Indian Guides") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=givVPVGql8Y) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1567 "2026-05-03T23:37:23Z")
Warning on the above. It’s more homophobic than I remembered. Be warned. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1568 "2026-05-04T02:54:37Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Enjoyable, but not restful. This reflects my preference for active travel vs. drinking by a pool. This. My vacations are frequently _longer_ than normal days. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1569 "2026-05-04T14:04:14Z")
I don’t read comic books but will go into one if I see it just to see if they have any good Spiderman paraphernalia. I didn’t even know it was comic book day but I was away this weekend anyway; a race & then a long drive home. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1570 "2026-05-04T15:41:34Z")
I would have said all 50, but I’m not confident I could distinguish Wyoming from Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1571 "2026-05-04T15:44:29Z")
Wyoming and Colorado are the most tricky ones. But I’ll admit I’m not sure I could distinguish North Dakota, South Dakota, or Kansas either ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1572 "2026-05-04T15:59:51Z")
Colorado is slightly larger than Wyoming. But shape-wise - yeah, that’s a toss-up. But that means if you get them swapped, you can’t be proven wrong! The Dakotas and Kansas have enough differences in their eastern borders that they are readily differentiated. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1573 "2026-05-04T16:16:13Z")
Gotta be Hawaii with Michigan a close second. mmm ---
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1574 "2026-05-04T16:35:56Z")
I always get New Hampshire and Vermont mixed up - I can never remember which is which. Otherwise I’d nail the rest. As for the Big Day of Giving, yes, my area has a Big Day of Giving, but I live in what many consider the greater Sacramento area, so my response probably skews the poll. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1575 "2026-05-04T16:41:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Wyoming and Colorado are the most tricky ones. Correct. This is the only reason I didn’t say “all fifty.” ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1576 "2026-05-04T16:50:28Z")
MLK Jr day is a day of service, & the five days after Thanksgiving is ~~Begging~~ Giving Tuesday (which ends up being a mix of local & national charities emailing me) but other than that I don’t know of a local day of giving. ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1577 "2026-05-04T17:32:11Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > Gotta be Hawaii with Michigan a close second. Based on the apparent education level of “large groups of Americans”, I’m expecting that a few of them will think that Hawaii is not a U.S. State. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1578 "2026-05-04T17:43:52Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > It was a YMCA father/son scouting program with a Native American theme when I was a kid in the 60s & 70s. I was in the Indian Guides at about that same time. It wasn’t unlike Cub Scouts, but the focus was specifically on driving involvement between fathers and their kids (apparently there were groups for boys with their dads, and groups for girls with their dads). We had regular “tribe” meetings (maybe once or twice a month), did activities, and went on camp-outs. It was big on stereotypical Native American imagery (the dads and kids adopted “Indian” names like “Grey Wolf,” headbands with feathers, faux-buckskin vests, tom-tom drums, “pow wows,” etc.); the YMCA eventually rebranded it as “Adventure Guides,” and got rid of the Native American appropriation aspects. [![](https://libnews.umn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fathers-and-sons-of-the-YMCA-Indian-Guides.png) ](https://libnews.umn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fathers-and-sons-of-the-YMCA-Indian-Guides.png) > **['Playing Indian': A retrospective on the YMCA's Indian Guides program - UMN...](https://libnews.umn.edu/2023/10/playing-indian-a-retrospective-on-the-ymcas-indian-guides-program/)** > > Ryan Bean and co-author Paul Hillmer, a professor of American history at Concordia University in St. Paul, recently published the book “Inappropriation: The Contested Legacy of Y-Indian Guides,” which examines the program’s 77-year history and how it... ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1579 "2026-05-04T18:06:59Z")
> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#): > > I’m expecting that a few of them will think that Hawaii is not a U.S. State. It is??? When did that happen? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1580 "2026-05-04T18:28:53Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > It wasn’t unlike Cub Scouts, but the focus was specifically on driving involvement between fathers and their kids This is one of the key distinctions. In Y-Guides, each kid attends meetings and events with their father. In scouting, I think it is just with the den leaders. I did Indian Guides in 1980. My kids did Y-Guides thirty years later and the YMCA had removed all of the Native American appropriation. It was a recent change since some families split off and recreated their own version of Indian Guides. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157.md?page=80)