# Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 29, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157 "2026-01-29T18:21:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1781 "2026-05-24T14:16:41Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And look- I spotted the coin, otherwise it would go into a coin machine at the bank or something.

The thing is you don’t know what’s going to happen to the coin. It might get spotted by the cashier when they’re tipping out, the manager might notice, their SO might notice when they plop their stuff on the front table after their shift, the customer right behind you might mention it.

The mortality of your actions aren’t determined by what someone else might do later.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1782 "2026-05-24T15:21:17Z")

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For a thousand dollars I may be tempted to take the coin, for ten thousand I would definitively be tempted.  
But for 100 dollars? I like to think that my integrity is not so cheaply bought.  
Anyway for \> 1000 $ what I would likely try to do is to make a deal with the guy and split the proceeds. Or simply tell them and hope they throw some money to me in gratitude.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1783 "2026-05-24T18:47:53Z")

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> [@CaveMike](#):
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> The mortality of your actions aren’t determined by what someone else might do later.

I am not going to kill anyone or cause their death. 😅

While you make a decent point, my point is that informed the clerk, etc that the coin is valuable and made an offer to buy it. Not take it, because that is stealing. The clerk, or manager or whoever, may now- accept my offer, or reject my offer or make a counteroffer. That is how the Fair market System and buying and selling works. They could also look up the coin themselves, but since the coin is not and cannot possibly be graded, any info they get will be incorrect.

Because the Poll is flawed- it is _impossible_ to tell the value of a coin (except the raw silver value) without having it graded. It is like seeing a diamond, and without examining it, immediately declare it is 1.4 carats, a blue white with minor inclusions.

[Coin Value Guide | How to Value an Old Coin Collection](https://www.coinstudy.com/coin-value-guide.html)

Note the exact same nickel has a value from $10 to $463.  
Knowing the precise value without examining a loose coin in a jar closely requires magic.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1784 "2026-05-24T23:33:03Z")

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Regarding my [pie poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/6781), I went with the [Atlantic Beach pie](https://www.seriouseats.com/atlantic-beach-pie-recipe-11787091?kw=myrecipes) even though it lost the poll. I went by the “coin flip” rule, where I decided based on how I felt about the result rather than the result itself. I felt happy when I saw that the Atlantic Beach pie started off with an early lead, and disappointed that key lime ultimately won by a 2 to 1 margin. Therefore, I made the Atlantic Beach pie. It’s in the oven right now. I’ll let you know how it turns out when I eat it tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1785 "2026-05-24T23:34:15Z")

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I hope it’s awesome!

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1786 "2026-05-24T23:42:04Z")

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I have to say, having tasted the leftover crumbs from the crust, the saltine cracker crust is quite good. It’s actually a nice balance of sweet and salty.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1787 "2026-05-25T05:55:12Z")

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You seem sure from your posts that the coin ending up in the tip jar was an accident. What if someone (who admittedly didn’t think it through) left it in there as a $100 tip?

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1788 "2026-05-25T14:01:19Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@CaveMike](#):
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> > The mortality of your actions aren’t determined by what someone else might do later.
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> I am not going to kill anyone or cause their death. 😅

Yeah, maybe I’m taking ethics too seriously. 😅

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1789 "2026-05-25T15:49:22Z")

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Does the update improve the user interface? Does it make it harder to get at stuff i routinely use? Has it become more or less stable? I need more information about this update before i can judge. Apps are more than just their functions.

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**Author:** ![RollOutTheBarrel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rolloutthebarrel/32/1649_2.png) [@RollOutTheBarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RollOutTheBarrel)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1790 "2026-05-25T16:01:34Z")

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Honestly, I’m just annoyed at an update I got to an app this morning and wanted to rant in poll form.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1791 "2026-05-25T19:32:36Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> You seem sure from your posts that the coin ending up in the tip jar was an accident. What if someone (who admittedly didn’t think it through) left it in there as a $100 tip?

I said nothing of the sort, but in that case, the clerk can say no. Remember- I INFORMED the clerk it could be valuable and made an OFFER they can certainly refuse.

Let us look at it another way- there is a yard sale- there on a table marked $5 is a vase. You examine the vase, and it _could_ be a Ming vase worth thousands. But it also could be a recent copy, worth $25 or so- it isnt damaged or anything. Is it your duty to inform the seller? or offer them $1000? Or just pay the $5 and take your chances?

I say- Pay the $5.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1792 "2026-05-25T20:11:40Z")

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Once I get up, I check the weather, and that’s pretty much it until after breakfast.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1793 "2026-05-25T21:03:23Z")

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I spend maybe three to five seconds on my phone to see what time it is, then close the phone before deciding if I might as well get up, or try to get a little more sleep before getting up to feed the cats.

The heat death of the universe will also probably come before Koontz’s third Christopher Snow book. And I’m thinking of adding Weber’s fourth Multiverse (_Hell’s Gate_, &c) book to that list, too.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1794 "2026-05-25T21:25:35Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> The heat death of the universe will also probably come before Koontz’s third Christopher Snow book. And I’m thinking of adding Weber’s fourth Multiverse (_Hell’s Gate_, &c) book to that list, too.

Damnit, I’ve read the first books of all those series!, I think I still haven’t read the last _Multiverse_ book because I sense a bit of excess right-wingery in it, and not of the acceptable kind.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1795 "2026-05-26T00:06:40Z")

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I answered “I do not look at my phone at all before I get out of bed,” but this is not literally true. I typically unplug my phone from its charging cord, and I do not avert my eyes when I do this. But I do not count this as time spent “on” my phone, so this seemed to be the closest of the available choices.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1796 "2026-05-26T00:27:45Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> The heat death of the universe will also probably come before Koontz’s third Christopher Snow book. And I’m thinking of adding Weber’s fourth Multiverse (_Hell’s Gate_, &c) book to that list, too.

You can add in that mythical third and “final” book in the _Kingkiller Chronicles_ by Patrick Rothfuss titled _The Doors of Stone_.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1797 "2026-05-26T00:34:44Z")

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Also in my list… hey may be… it’s me? I’m cursed?.  
Thankfully Tolkien had finished LOTR and The Silmarillion had been published before I was born!.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1798 "2026-05-26T00:44:30Z")

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Patrick Rothfuss even got an advance- and made promises, like to a charity-

> **[Fourteen Years of Silence: Patrick Rothfuss, The Doors of Stone, and the...](https://www.kenreid.co.uk/blog/fourteen-years-of-silence-rothfuss-doors-of-stone.html)**
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> Fourteen years since The Wise Man's Fear and still no Doors of Stone. A personal reflection on the Kingkiller Chronicle, the long wait, the charity debacle, and why writing at this level is genuinely hard.

Now there are arguments that a Author doesnt “owe” his readers a conclusion 🙄- but when you get an advance, and make a promise to a charity- then indeed- one “owes” writing.

I dont like that “Author doesnt owe readers” argument. If readers buy books 1 & 2 with promises book 3 is coming- then yeah, the unspoken contract is - the author owes. I mean if the first two were sold on the basis that the conclusion was never coming- sales would be slim.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1799 "2026-05-26T01:29:19Z")

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Sooner or later someone is going to write a decent fanfic that suffices for wrapping up that trilogy.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2026, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-polls-only-thread-part-3/1027157/1800 "2026-05-26T11:58:18Z")

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Brandon Sanderson probably

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