# Disgraced Former President Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 12, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028 "2019-03-12T21:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/41 "2019-03-14T12:03:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The Bird Man of Alctraz. Insulting to a very valuable species, but the the second definition is so apt… [A contemptible person who preys on or exploits others](http://www.profchallenger.com/2015/11/trump-vulture-feeds-again.html) ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/42 "2019-03-14T12:39:34Z")
Elected president Donald Trump. And probably 2nd term president Donald Trump as well. And when he is done he will saunter onto the sidelines with zero repercussions for his actions, it’s not Donald Trump that needs insulting here. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/43 "2019-03-14T12:52:03Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Elected president Donald Trump. Electoral College Trump - EC\*45, cheated yet still lost popular vote by 3,000,000 > [@](#): > > And probably 2nd term president Donald Trump as well. Not bloody likely > [@bucketybuck](#): > > And when he is done he will saunter onto the sidelines with zero repercussions for his actions, it’s not Donald Trump that needs insulting here. He doesn’t saunter. More like lumber or shamble. Zero repercussions for The National Disgrace? Not bloody likely. Actually, a disgrace to the planet and the species. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/44 "2019-03-14T13:38:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Oh, he’ll still manage to tweet. God damnit!!! ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/45 "2019-03-14T14:00:07Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > Electoral College Trump - EC\*45, cheated yet still lost popular vote by 3,000,000 America elected Donald Trump its president. Thats a simple fact. > [@](#): > > Not bloody likely I’ve no doubt you would have said similar before he was elected the first time. America elected him, America will re-elect him. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/46 "2019-03-14T14:44:45Z")
I think there’s the potential for a lot of cautionary fables. For example, _The Man Who Cried “Lock Her Up”_ in which he, of course, ends up getting locked up himself. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/47 "2019-03-14T16:08:43Z")
“Disgraced” is not something the Republican party and its base actually is capable of showing anymore. Ollie North is still a hero. Newt Gingrich is working for Fox News. No matter what occurs, the base will believe Trump is, if not blameless, then just a really good businessman who took advantage of loopholes. And, as long as there is still money and power to be had, the Republicans in power will continue to be apologists. Trump, himself, is incapable of considering himself disgraced, and the base will continue to believe him. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/48 "2019-03-14T17:03:39Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Elected president Donald Trump. > … With fewer votes for than against. It childishly bothers him that he’s not popular, and that’s amusing. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/49 "2019-03-14T23:48:05Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > America elected Donald Trump its president. Thats a simple fact. > > I’ve no doubt you would have said similar before he was elected the first time. > > America elected him, America will re-elect him. The only reason Trump got elected was because a massive campaign of lies conducted by foreign enemies and criminals convinced a significant number of people that neither option was better than the other, resulting in them staying home and allowing Trump to squeak by on his losing numbers thanks to national (and founding-father intentional!) gerrymandering. The gerrymandering will remain. The hostile foreign powers and criminals will remain. But this time 65% of america _cannot possibly_ be convinced that any other option is as bad as Trump. Trump may remain president until the natural end of his term. (Though I kind of doubt it.) To remain president after that would literally require widespread vote tampering by literal enemies of the state. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/50 "2019-03-15T00:00:13Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > The only reason Trump got elected was because a massive campaign of lies conducted by foreign enemies and criminals convinced a significant number of people that neither option was better than the other, resulting in them staying home and allowing Trump to squeak by on his losing numbers thanks to national (and founding-father intentional!) gerrymandering. > > The gerrymandering will remain. The hostile foreign powers and criminals will remain. But this time 65% of america _cannot possibly_ be convinced that any other option is as bad as Trump. > > Trump may remain president until the natural end of his term. (Though I kind of doubt it.) To remain president after that would literally require widespread vote tampering by literal enemies of the state. Don’t drive yourself crazy. No matter how it happens or how long it takes, he will go down in history as disgraced former president Trump, if not something worse. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/51 "2019-03-16T11:27:44Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Let’s say that the Democratic fever dream comes true and Donald Trump ends up in prison. We now have inmate Trump, a man who had access to all of the United States’ most closely held secrets and a man who has absolutely no qualms about burning down the country for his own benefit or amusement, in prison. How exactly do we deal with that situation? The US has been involved in [tongue removal](https://bolesblogs.com/2007/01/17/show-me-your-tongue/) before. (warning: torture descriptions) > [@Monty](#): > > Oh, he’ll still manage to tweet. Thumbs are easy to remove as well. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > First of all, there is no evidence that he ever read one sentence of any intelligence briefing. Any secrets that he was made privy to were likely oral briefings only, which went in one ear and, meeting no resistance, went out the other. Since none of what he heard affected him financially, there would have been no reason for him to remember one single word. And if he did remember anything, the odds against him being truthful in retelling any of it are astronomical. Finally, his fellow inmates would be in no position to exploit any information they would get from him. > > But it still wouldn’t hurt to put him in solitary. You’re right. Shit. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/52 "2019-03-16T11:48:25Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Let’s say that the Democratic fever dream comes true and Donald Trump ends up in prison. We now have inmate Trump, a man who had access to all of the United States’ most closely held secrets and a man who has absolutely no qualms about burning down the country for his own benefit or amusement, in prison. How exactly do we deal with that situation? The US has been involved in [tongue removal](https://bolesblogs.com/2007/01/17/show-me-your-tongue/) before. (warning: torture descriptions) > [@Monty](#): > > Oh, he’ll still manage to tweet. Thumbs are easy to remove as well. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > First of all, there is no evidence that he ever read one sentence of any intelligence briefing. Any secrets that he was made privy to were likely oral briefings only, which went in one ear and, meeting no resistance, went out the other. Since none of what he heard affected him financially, there would have been no reason for him to remember one single word. And if he did remember anything, the odds against him being truthful in retelling any of it are astronomical. Finally, his fellow inmates would be in no position to exploit any information they would get from him. > > But it still wouldn’t hurt to put him in solitary. You’re right. Shit. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/53 "2019-03-16T15:53:24Z")
How will the courts rule when Aryan Brotherhood members in our various Federal and state prisons demand the right to wear MAGA hats? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/54 "2019-03-16T16:10:29Z")
Will they let him bring in a flag for conjugal visits? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/55 "2019-03-17T01:43:33Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Let’s say that the Democratic fever dream comes true and Donald Trump ends up in prison. We now have inmate Trump, a man who had access to all of the United States’ most closely held secrets and a man who has absolutely no qualms about burning down the country for his own benefit or amusement, in prison. How exactly do we deal with that situation? Whatever secrets he knows will fade from his memory after a few days’ of distraction. Let him watch reruns of himself on _The Apprentice_ for a while and even _he_ might forget he was ever president. And soon enough the inevitable heart attack will solve the problem for good. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/56 "2019-03-17T02:23:14Z")
I’m predicting his name will become a derogatory term. So in the future, Trump will be remembered as a trump. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/57 "2019-03-17T03:45:29Z")
He is a terrible person and a national embarrassment. But like it or not (and I already don’t), he will always be in the history books as the 45th President - likely never honored, though, and certainly not remembered fondly. ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/58 "2019-03-17T05:12:52Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Whatever his status as President, he’s disgraced us all. And we may not recover during my remaining lifetime. I object to the use of “us” and “we” here. DT has disgraced _himself_, not me or you or even the mean-spirited scoundrels who voted him into office. The shit he has perpetrated, he did by himself, and I am not besmeared by his actions. Collective guilt is an oppressive, cruel and unhelpful concept, and doesn’t exist except in the minds of those who peddle it and buy into it. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/59 "2019-03-17T06:40:03Z")
> [@DLuxN8R-13](#): > > I object to the use of “us” and “we” here. DT has disgraced _himself_, not me or you or even the mean-spirited scoundrels who voted him into office. The shit he has perpetrated, he did by himself, and I am not besmeared by his actions. > > Collective guilt is an oppressive, cruel and unhelpful concept, and doesn’t exist except in the minds of those who peddle it and buy into it. You are wrong. It is an embarrassment to us all that the American people could have elected such a lowlife. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/60 "2019-03-17T12:58:08Z")
> [@DLuxN8R-13](#): > > … DT has disgraced _himself_, not me or you or even the mean-spirited scoundrels who voted him into office… You lost me here. If I go into a restaurant and they serve me literal dog-shit, I’m supposed to blame only the dog?? Not the cooks and waiters who put the shit on a plate and served it to me??? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028.md?page=4)