# Disgraced Former President Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 12, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028 "2019-03-12T21:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/61 "2019-03-17T14:48:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m predicting his name will become a derogatory term. So in the future, Trump will be remembered as a trump. “Look at this mess I made. I trumped that all up.” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/62 "2019-03-17T15:41:52Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > “Look at this mess I made. I trumped that all up.” “I couldn’t make it to the toilet stall in time! Now my pants are full of trump!” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/63 "2019-03-17T15:55:43Z")
For the past 2+ years, my card-playing friends and I have struggled to come up with an alternative name for ‘trump suit’ in each dealt hand. We’ve been using ‘royal suit’, but ‘royal’ obviously has other connotations in certain card games. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/64 "2019-03-17T16:10:02Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “I couldn’t make it to the toilet stall in time! Now my pants are full of trump!” 'Way back when CFSG’s primary assault on the public was his airline, Dave Barry wrote that “Trump” sounds like the noise emitted by livestock with gastric disorders (“Stand back, Earl! That cow’s starting to Trump!”). And it’s only gotten worse since then. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/65 "2019-03-17T16:18:00Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Whatever his status as President, he’s disgraced us all. And we may not recover during my remaining lifetime. I should probably have been more specific that by “us” I meant the United States as a national entity, and in that sense he **has** disgraced us on the world stage. Since in 2016 I was working for a state agency which received Federal funding, I was constrained by the Hatch Act in what I could do to promote a political candidate; but I did what I could, and while I was dismayed by the outcome I feel no personal guilt. Nor do I expect anyone else to do so (unless, of course, they personally deserve to). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/66 "2019-03-17T19:21:01Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > For the past 2+ years, my card-playing friends and I have struggled to come up with an alternative name for ‘trump suit’ in each dealt hand. > > We’ve been using ‘royal suit’, but ‘royal’ obviously has other connotations in certain card games. > > Any suggestions? “Winner”/“Winning”. Or you could go with “Tiger Blood”. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/67 "2019-03-17T22:17:04Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > For the past 2+ years, my card-playing friends and I have struggled to come up with an alternative name for ‘trump suit’ in each dealt hand. > We’ve been using ‘royal suit’, but ‘royal’ obviously has other connotations in certain card games. > Any suggestions? > [@Monty](#): > > “Winner”/“Winning”. Or you could go with “Tiger Blood”. It’s odd, in a way, that bridge hasn’t seen a resurgence of interest in the past two years, given that many times in a typical game, players get to say the phrase: **No trump** > [@](#): > > Notrump, or no trump (NT) > A contract, or a bid that names a contract without a trump suit. Notrump is the highest-ranking strain. WikiProject Contract bridge deprecates the two-word “no trump”, however “no trump” is the usual spelling in the United Kingdom and in those European countries which have adopted this English term. > **[Glossary of contract bridge terms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_contract_bridge_terms)** > > These terms are used in contract bridge, using duplicate or rubber scoring. Some of them are also used in whist, bid whist, the obsolete game auction bridge, and other trick-taking games. This glossary supplements the Glossary of card game terms. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/68 "2019-03-17T23:12:30Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > For the past 2+ years, my card-playing friends and I have struggled to come up with an alternative name for ‘trump suit’ in each dealt hand. > > We’ve been using ‘royal suit’, but ‘royal’ obviously has other connotations in certain card games. > > Any suggestions? There’s a recent poker thread here titled “Something, no trumps.” I thought to myself " Thank Gob"😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/69 "2019-03-17T23:30:39Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > You are wrong. It is an embarrassment to us all that the American people could have elected such a lowlife. No, really, it’s not. I’m embarrassed by my own fuck-ups, not someone else’s, and certainly not “the American people” who aren’t me. If _you_ want to feel embarrassed or disgraced by what a whole lot of people who aren’t you have done, go right ahead, but leave me the hell out of your fantasy of collective guilt. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/70 "2019-03-18T00:56:04Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > For the past 2+ years, my card-playing friends and I have struggled to come up with an alternative name for ‘trump suit’ in each dealt hand. > > We’ve been using ‘royal suit’, but ‘royal’ obviously has other connotations in certain card games. > > Any suggestions? Not from me, but I hear ya. My bridge club is threatening to kick me out if I don’t stop making bids such as “Three No-America-hating fuckstick.” At least when I listen to jazz, I can talk about cornets and flugelhorns. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/71 "2019-03-18T01:06:58Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > For the past 2+ years, my card-playing friends and I have struggled to come up with an alternative name for ‘trump suit’ in each dealt hand. > > We’ve been using ‘royal suit’, but ‘royal’ obviously has other connotations in certain card games. > > Any suggestions? I submit “super”. It conveys the function, and you can use it for both superhero and Seinfeld riffs, with “super-suit” and “No supe!” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/72 "2019-03-18T01:18:19Z")
I’m going to be the bearer of bad news: unless there is a recession, Trump will be re-elected. Presidents aren’t un-elected unless the country is feeling bad about themselves. If people are employed, he could molest children and it wouldn’t matter. Half the country will claim it’s fake news and vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/73 "2019-03-18T09:16:09Z")
I read somewhere that when people are about to die, they never regret not having worked more, they regret not having spent more time with friends and family and not having tried to become a better person. That is the way I see his [regrets](http://schumanchu.eu/html/l/l_00056trump~electric~chair.html). ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/74 "2019-03-19T01:17:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m going to be the bearer of bad news: unless there is a recession, Trump will be re-elected. Presidents aren’t un-elected unless the country is feeling bad about themselves. If people are employed, he could molest children and it wouldn’t matter. Half the country will claim it’s fake news and vote for him. I came up with an analogy this week that I hope isn’t too trite. Trump is like broccoli (or insert a food you hate). I see it on a menu. It comes with the fried chicken. No substitutions. I can’t stand even the smell of it. I won’t order it. I’ll get a burger instead. But the MAGA people who don’t like broccoli but reallllllllllllllllly like fried chicken? They decide they can hold their nose. They can put it to the side of the plate. They don’t have to eat THAT part of the meal. Sure, it comes with it, but they didn’t order it specifically on purpose themselves. It’s not their fault there’s broccoli, but what are you gonna do if you want fried chicken? I mean, they could have gone to other restaurants and got fried chicken but too many people went to this place and now it’s the only fried chicken you can get for six years. They’re not going to let that happen. But the problem is that the broccoli isn’t just pushed to the side. It’s mashed up and coating the chicken. It’s floating in the drink. It’s flinging itself onto other diners’ plates and fucking up everyone’s meals. And the people who ordered it in the past and will order it again in 18 months will be like “But I like chicken. I didn’t order the broccoli.” They can’t take responsibility for it or recognize how they’re ingesting it anyway. So yeah, it came down to so few votes in so few states that if it were to happen tomorrow I’d like to think that it was a fluke and if just 100k people in 3 states voted D, he’d be gone. But I think, barring something EVEN MORE TERRIBLE than what has happened these last two years, everyone who voted for him before will vote for him again. I don’t think he’s gained a single vote, which is the best we can say right now, but enough people want those conservative judges and brown people suffering that they don’t care about how what he is doing is affecting them personally and destroying everything they allegedly believed in 36 months ago. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/75 "2019-03-19T01:48:51Z")
I think there is far too much pessimism. First of all, Hillary ran a terrible campaign. As a slogan, “I’m With Her” sucked big time. She couldn’t come up with a reason to vote for her, other than her messianic vision of being the first female president. She tried to run up the score by going to places like Arizona in the closing weeks rather than trying to shore up WI, MI, and PA. Some things weren’t her fault, like the FBI’s boneheaded intervention against her. The public didn’t like her, so they voted for the clown, thinking he would at least be entertaining. They had no idea what a personification of evil he would turn out to be. Now we know better. Democrats will not be apathetic in 2020. We saw this in the midterms, traditionally when Democrats stay home. If they turned out in midterms, they’ll turn out in droves in 2020. Republicans always vote in every election, what determines the outcome is Democratic turnout. Unless we nominate Elizabeth Warren, we’re in good shape. What we can’t do is nominate someone that Republicans will paint with a hammer and sickle. Give me Biden-Harris, Booker-Gillibrand, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/76 "2019-03-19T01:51:36Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > “Look at this mess I made. I trumped that all up.” > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > “I couldn’t make it to the toilet stall in time! Now my pants are full of trump!” A trump isn’t just somebody who shits in his pants. A trump is somebody who shits in his pants and then blames somebody else. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/77 "2019-03-19T02:15:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m going to be the bearer of bad news: unless there is a recession, Trump will be re-elected. Presidents aren’t un-elected unless the country is feeling bad about themselves. If people are employed, he could molest children and it wouldn’t matter. Half the country will claim it’s fake news and vote for him. How could we fail with a winning attitude like that? :rolleyes: Democrats took back the House by a huge margin beating the electoral jerrymandering with the majority of voters believing the economy was wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/78 "2019-03-19T04:24:27Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I came up with an analogy this week that I hope isn’t too trite. > > Trump is like broccoli (or insert a food you hate). I see it on a menu. It comes with the fried chicken. No substitutions. I can’t stand even the smell of it. I won’t order it. I’ll get a burger instead. But the MAGA people who don’t like broccoli but reallllllllllllllllly like fried chicken? They decide they can hold their nose. They can put it to the side of the plate. They don’t have to eat THAT part of the meal. Sure, it comes with it, but they didn’t order it specifically on purpose themselves. It’s not their fault there’s broccoli, but what are you gonna do if you want fried chicken? I mean, they could have gone to other restaurants and got fried chicken but too many people went to this place and now it’s the only fried chicken you can get for six years. They’re not going to let that happen. > > But the problem is that the broccoli isn’t just pushed to the side. It’s mashed up and coating the chicken. It’s floating in the drink. It’s flinging itself onto other diners’ plates and fucking up everyone’s meals. > > And the people who ordered it in the past and will order it again in 18 months will be like “But I like chicken. I didn’t order the broccoli.” They can’t take responsibility for it or recognize how they’re ingesting it anyway. > > So yeah, it came down to so few votes in so few states that if it were to happen tomorrow I’d like to think that it was a fluke and if just 100k people in 3 states voted D, he’d be gone. But I think, barring something EVEN MORE TERRIBLE than what has happened these last two years, everyone who voted for him before will vote for him again. I don’t think he’s gained a single vote, which is the best we can say right now, but enough people want those conservative judges and brown people suffering that they don’t care about how what he is doing is affecting them personally and destroying everything they allegedly believed in 36 months ago. You got it wrong, but you’re on the right track. Trump voters are those who intentionally convince themselves that not only they going to like that broccoli but they have always like that broccoli. They’re going to wolf it down, all the while telling all and sundry that they’ve always liked it and way back when that fried chicken didn’t come with broccoli, it was only because those damned pansy communist liberal snowflake atheist Muslim minorities had taken over the government and were just flexing their muscles with food first. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > A trump isn’t just somebody who shits in his pants. A trump is somebody who shits in his pants and then blames somebody else. Nah, there’s no blame there. He’s someone who shits in his pants and then enjoys the reaction of the crowd. And a Trump supporter is one who can no longer smell or see the soiled clothing, but when it’s pointed out to him, screams his mantra: FAKE NEWS! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/79 "2019-03-19T04:59:50Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > A trump isn’t just somebody who shits in his pants. A trump is somebody who shits in his pants and then blames somebody else. A real trump is someone who shits his pants, blames somebody else AND brags about the size and smell of the shit. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028/80 "2019-03-19T05:11:26Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > A real trump is someone who shits his pants, blames somebody else AND brags about the size and smell of the shit. We’re talking about Trump, right? You just know he believes his shit doesn’t smell. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disgraced-former-president-trump/831028.md?page=5)