# Dishes That Have Gone Out of Style? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 23, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472 "2016-12-23T19:54:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/261 "2017-01-04T02:45:39Z")
> [@bmoak](#): > > IIRC the etymology is from “spiedini”, meaning “skewer”. It was brought to the Southern Tier by immigrants from the Abruzzo region of Italy, was called spierini or spiducc, and was marinated skwered mutton cooked over a brazier. Spiedies started off as a lamb dish, but now it’s almost impossible to find lamb spiedies (Lupo’s doesn’t have them. Pancho’s Pit did until they closed down.) I can’t say about Chiavetti’s (which is unknown in the Binghamton area), but spiedies definitely predate Cornell chicken. > > Lupo’s didn’t open until the 60s, but more grandparents told me about eating spiedies at Sharkey’s and Red’s Kettle Inn in the late 40s. Those places are both still there and selling speidies, but neither is Italian, so presumably speidies were sold in Italian restaurants before that. “Spiedini/o” does make more sense as the immediate predecessor, but they’re all ultimately related to “spiedino.” “Spiedino” is just the diminutive of “spiedo” (“skewer” = “little spit.”) Yeah, I tried asking for lamb spiedies at Lupo’s back in October and had no luck. I ended up going with the pork and it somehow wasn’t as good as the chicken. It was a bit overdone. I did bring back some Lupo’s marinade and Salamida spiedie sauce, so I plan to eventually get around to trying it with lamb. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/262 "2017-01-04T03:33:09Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > On New Year’s Day, the cooking newsletter I get from the NY Times [revealed this](http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1908-welsh-rarebit)! > > I made it with Guinness and aged Irish cheddar. It’s _great_. That method ain’t traditional but, by golly, it looks DELICIOUS. I’ll put it on my list! ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/263 "2017-01-04T03:55:28Z")
Boston cream pie. I can’t remember the last time I saw one in a bakery. Pepperidge Farm used to make a frozen one, and I can’t remember the last time I saw that, either. It was awesome straight out of the freezer - they never got defrosted in our house. I might just have to make one. Anyone have a favorite recipe? ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/264 "2017-01-04T05:16:51Z")
I had Boston cream pie last week at the diner in town. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/265 "2017-01-04T13:10:59Z")
Boston cream pies are a staple at my local bakery. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/266 "2017-01-04T17:38:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Also, Beef Wellington. The only place I’ve ever seen Beef Wellington is on “Hell’s Kitchen”. Does anybody actually make Jell-O desserts from the little box anymore? I know the single-serving cups were popular many years ago but they were kind of bland and rubbery. Count me as one of the 70’s and 80’s kids whose mom put canned fruit into Jell-O to make it “healthy”. I freakin hated it. Speaking of canned fruit, I know they still exist but does anybody actually eat canned fruit anymore? Like those repulsive mixed fruit “salads” where you enjoyed the one or two cherries and nothing else? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/267 "2017-01-04T17:46:53Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > The only place I’ve ever seen Beef Wellington is on “Hell’s Kitchen”. > > Does anybody actually make Jell-O desserts from the little box anymore? I know the single-serving cups were popular many years ago but they were kind of bland and rubbery. Count me as one of the 70’s and 80’s kids whose mom put canned fruit into Jell-O to make it “healthy”. I freakin hated it. Speaking of canned fruit, I know they still exist but does anybody actually eat canned fruit anymore? Like those repulsive mixed fruit “salads” where you enjoyed the one or two cherries and nothing else? My wife does sometimes make the jello, but more often uses it in a couple of cake desserts she makes, especially Milnot cake. What’s Milnot cake you ask? Why, [it’s a very light and airy cheesecake](http://www.recipesforlaughter.com/2010/09/extra-special-milnot-cake.html) made with Milnot, a brand of “evaporated filled milk.” What’s “evaporated filled milk” you ask? It’s evaporated milk that has had all its butterfat removed and replaced with non-dairy fat (vegetable oils, usually.) Why does it still exist? I don’t know. Milnot cake is about all it exists for in my book. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/268 "2017-01-04T18:14:53Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > The only place I’ve ever seen Beef Wellington is on “Hell’s Kitchen”. > > Does anybody actually make Jell-O desserts from the little box anymore? I know the single-serving cups were popular many years ago but they were kind of bland and rubbery. Count me as one of the 70’s and 80’s kids whose mom put canned fruit into Jell-O to make it “healthy”. I freakin hated it. Speaking of canned fruit, I know they still exist but does anybody actually eat canned fruit anymore? Like those repulsive mixed fruit “salads” where you enjoyed the one or two cherries and nothing else? My 80-something mother loved loved loved jello with canned fruit cocktail or sliced bananas in it. She had dementia and while still at home, I would haul a car full of supplies, and groceries over, and always a container of jello with fruit cocktail or bananas. I will never eat any of those things again. Though I have made some excellent jello mold salads for myself. Lime jello with pears and cream cheese, or pineapple and walnuts and whipped cream, there are some delicious ones out there. Though out of style now. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/269 "2017-01-04T21:15:17Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I was going to ask if anyone still did this one, with the potato chips on top. At least once a month, or the kids will kill me for skipping it. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/270 "2017-01-04T21:26:07Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > And yeah, Welsh Rabbit is never seen any more. My theory is that the raging American passion for melted cheese was re-directed toward pizza after WWII. > > Pizza is available everywhere, so why melt cheddar cheese into beer and mustard and pour it over toast and eat it with a fork and knife? Aside from the fact that it’s delicious? I will be making Welsh Rabbit this weekend now (attempting to, anyway). I had never heard of it until this thread! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/271 "2017-01-04T23:29:42Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > I will be making Welsh Rabbit this weekend now (attempting to, anyway). I had never heard of it until this thread! Then you should definitely use this recipe, [from 1747](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_rarebit#Variants): > [@](#): > > Toast the bread and soak it in the wine, set it before the fire, rub butter over the bottom of a plate, lay the cheese on, pour in two or three spoonfuls of white wine, cover it with another plate, set it over a chafing-dish of hot coals for two or three minutes, then stir it till it is done and well mixed. You may stir in a little mustard; when it is enough lay it on the bread, just brown it with a hot shovel. ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/272 "2017-01-04T23:39:52Z")
> [@seal\_cleaner](#): > > And, in my part of the country, they are called Vi-EENA sausages. Often eaten on white bread with Miracle Whip. :eek: That might be the single most disturbing post I’ve seen on this entire website, which is saying a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/273 "2017-01-05T01:41:47Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > I will be making Welsh Rabbit this weekend now (attempting to, anyway). I had never heard of it until this thread! Pleasant dreams! > **[Dream of the Rarebit Fiend](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Rarebit_Fiend)** > > Dream of the Rarebit Fiend is a newspaper comic strip by American cartoonist Winsor McCay, begun September 10, 1904. It was McCay's second successful strip, after Little Sammy Sneeze secured him a position on the cartoon staff of the New York Herald. Rarebit Fiend appeared in the Evening Telegram, a newspaper published by the Herald. For contractual reasons, McCay signed the strip with the pen name "Silas". > The strip had no continuity or recurring characters, but a recurring theme: a characte... ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/274 "2017-01-05T02:03:17Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > My wife does sometimes make the jello, but more often uses it in a couple of cake desserts she makes, especially Milnot cake. What’s Milnot cake you ask? Why, [it’s a very light and airy cheesecake](http://www.recipesforlaughter.com/2010/09/extra-special-milnot-cake.html) made with Milnot, a brand of “evaporated filled milk.” What’s “evaporated filled milk” you ask? It’s evaporated milk that has had all its butterfat removed and replaced with non-dairy fat (vegetable oils, usually.) Why does it still exist? I don’t know. Milnot cake is about all it exists for in my book. I have a recipe like this that uses Dream Whip in place of Milnot. It’s pretty tasty but I find the ingredients vaguely alarming. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/275 "2017-01-05T02:07:25Z")
> [@Elemenopy](#): > > Too many things here to comment on individually, but I will say that I love vintage recipes and nothing is out of style at my house. (I’m not particularly fond of organ meats, but we do tripe and things like that.) > > What about stuffed vegetables? Stuffed cabbage (sarma), stuffed peppers, stuffed zucchini, mayonnaise “salads” served in hollowed tomatoes? I still make these sorts of things from time to time, but they seem to have dropped off the radar lately. Stuffed cabbage – you mean halupki? You can find it anywhere in my area. Personally I’ve never been a fan, but if you’re from a Slavic family, it’s definitely a staple. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/276 "2017-01-14T01:06:03Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > And yeah, Welsh Rabbit is never seen any more. My theory is that the raging American passion for melted cheese was re-directed toward pizza after WWII. > > Pizza is available everywhere, so why melt cheddar cheese into beer and mustard and pour it over toast and eat it with a fork and knife? Aside from the fact that it’s delicious? It’s a bit of work, especially if you use good cheese vs. pre-grated stuff from the store, but it IS delish when made with lots of horseradish and a bottle of decent-ish beer. We used to make it periodically (btw, it’s **rarebit** if one is trying to be correct). Then we had kids, and gave it up, because are you sure you want to know?No really, are you sure???Really, you’re gonna regret it a breastfed baby’s poop smells (and looks) a LOT like melted cheese sauce :::barf:::. This thread isn’t the first place that Welsh Rarebit has been [documented as an out-of-fashion dish.](http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/welsh-rarebit/) ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/277 "2017-01-14T01:19:42Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > …(btw, it’s **rarebit** if one is trying to be correct)… And it turns out [“rabbit” IS the correct word, “rarebit” is the corruption](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_rarebit). I thought it was the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/278 "2017-01-14T01:50:16Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > It seems like every mom in my town was making “tamale pie” when I was growing up. It was vile stuff - looked like the poop of someone who had eaten a lot of whole kernel corn the day before. > > I’m glad that the craze for this icky dish died out. Tamale pie was one of my nightmare foods during the years I lived with my grandmother (early 60’s). It was too spicy for my child’s palate, and had an unpleasant texture and flavor. I liked real tamales when we could get them, but tamale pie was horrible. My other nightmare foods were meatloaf with burned tomato paste on the top, and frozen breaded veal cutlets. Those cutlets must have been cheap because we had them all the time for a while. To this day I cannot stand the taste of veal. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/279 "2017-01-25T08:10:01Z")
> [@TheFaerie](#): > > I use my 2 cup measuring cup. Although I do have two gravy boats, they are in boxes in the store room in my basement and it’s way too much trouble to dig them out than it is to use the handy measuring cup. HAHAHA - we also usually just use a Pyrex measuring cup, though we put a gravy spoon in it as the cup would drip if we tried to pour from it. We do have a gravy boat from the formal china pattern (inherited). We also have a beautiful silver gravy ladle that we use with it. It turns out silver is a very good conductor of heat when you leave it sitting in the container full of fresh, piping hot gravy!!! ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472/280 "2017-01-25T16:35:42Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > Elaborate alcoholic cocktails, made from a home bar. Too bad this one is gone. Maybe in Europe it’s not common, but this one’s having a revival in the US. There’s an entire cocktail subculture that sort of encompasses home cocktail use, as well as bars/restaurants having interesting new signature cocktails and what-not. I think a lot of this is more because of changing patterns in terms of what people eat- a lot of those older dishes are considered unhealthy today, and because it seems to me that a lot of people just flat-out don’t cook anymore. I also think there’s been a shift in entertaining/getting together with friends; as a kid it wasn’t that uncommon to go to someone else’s house for a cookout or dinner or whatever, and usually everyone brought a dish. Nowadays, people tend to meet at restaurants or other venues, and not necessarily at home. So a lot of the entertaining food- stuff like ambrosia, rumaki, etc… aren’t done as often as they used to be. Finally, I think there’s been a shift in price on some dishes; stuff like liver and tongue were generally stuff you bought because it was cheap; in recent decades, the “good” parts of the cow are now cheap, so tongue is rare, as is liver. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishes-that-have-gone-out-of-style/775472.md?page=15)