# Dishwasher? No. Mni-rant **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 7, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622 "2018-06-07T19:38:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/1 "2018-06-07T19:38:53Z")
For months, I’ve tried to get a dishwasher installed. My kitchen never had one. Last month, I got a guy from the Lee Home Services company (Adam, by name) to come out, take measurements, & give me an estimate. He gave it an OK, & the install price was reasonable. I chose a unit online, emailed him the specs, & he said that it would fit just fine. It arrived yesterday. The workman came to install it today. First thing he said is : “It won’t fit.” :eek: Turns out, my counter is two inches too low to accommodate any dishwasher sold today. Even if it wasn’t, we’d have to saw the frame off the kitchen door, just to open & close the washer. All Adam had to do was say–“We can’t do it”, & that would have been fine. Adam had **one job** … and didn’t know how to do it. The workman helped me return the washer, for a refund. I’m out $200, for incidentals. I’m surprisingly sad. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/2 "2018-06-07T19:58:44Z")
My sympathies. A few years ago I bought a new cooktop. I have a separate oven and cooktop, and I measured that the cooktop had to fit in the 4 inch deep space above the oven. I went to an appliance store and explained this to the salesman. He said, “no problem, all cooktops are the same depth”. So I bought one. It was delivered. The installers arrived and said (wait for it … ) “It won’t fit.” It was too deep. I called back the salesman and said, “hey this thing is too deep, but you told me all cooktops were the same depth”. His reply: “I never said any such thing.” I had to fight tooth and nail with him just to return it and get my money back. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/3 "2018-06-07T20:07:06Z")
Have you looked into freestanding or countertop dishwashers? [I did a quick search for you](https://www.homedepot.com/b/Appliances-Dishwashers-Portable-Dishwashers/N-5yc1vZc3p1?cm_mmc=SEM%7CTHD%7Cgoogle%7CD29+Appliances&mid=swjLTZSHk%7Cdc_mtid_8903tb925190_pcrid_254846945183_pkw __pmt_b_product__ slid_&gclid=CjwKCAjwr-PYBRB8EiwALtjbz1S43Sh4UBDn5hvwMr719PJNwdUa-5rIBSb4DK3kBhLFFi03nFoQLBoCRKwQAvD_BwE&dclid=CKWwq-KswtsCFch-fgodm80KWw), and Home Depot (for example) has a wide variety, including many that are only available online and would have to be shipped (just in case you don’t have a store nearby). They come in a variety of widths, so your door shouldn’t be a problem. I hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/4 "2018-06-07T21:50:45Z")
Tried a countertop–it leaked everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/5 "2018-06-07T22:12:21Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Tried a countertop–it leaked everywhere. I’m convinced that not ALL of them leak. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/6 "2018-06-07T22:13:12Z")
We had the same “counters too low” problem. And the same “salesman said No Prob, installer tried to wedge it in and said Nope” scenario. Luckily, the installer called back to the store, salesman got on the phone with us, apologized, and we picked out an ADA dishwasher. Shorter dishwasher (to accomodate wheelchair, I assume). It fit with room to spare under our liliputian counters. YAY! But it holds 2/3 what our old dishwasher did. BOO! But we just use fewer dishes, and run it more often. And it fits! YAY! (ETA: Googled “ADA dishwasher” and found 34" tall, and even 32" tall dishwashers: Bosch, GE, Samsung – looks like plenty!) ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/7 "2018-06-08T00:09:34Z")
Home Depot had plenty of 32" talls. What’s the height of your space? StG ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/8 "2018-06-27T23:03:50Z")
Had a guy in today. I found something that will fit, but there are shipping issues. So, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/9 "2018-06-27T23:48:23Z")
The amount of grief and wasted time I’ve caused myself over dirty dishes, it would take a VERY expensive dishwasher to not be better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/10 "2018-06-28T00:32:34Z")
**Boscha** , regarding Adam, I hope you will write him a letter and copy his boss and tell him how disappointed you were when you found out that he could not perform the fairly simple job of measuring for a dishwasher, or did not care enough to do it properly. You may not get any more money back, but they should know what this cost you (if they don’t already) in time, money and emotion. Better luck with the next one. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/11 "2018-06-28T12:45:33Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > The amount of grief and wasted time I’ve caused myself over dirty dishes, it would take a VERY expensive dishwasher to not be better than that. [Somebody has the blues.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvt5v79VzE) ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/12 "2018-06-28T21:56:53Z")
The cheap one was sold out. The other one costs $790 dollars! Yike. There is another that will fit, & cheaper, but it’s on Amazon, & how can I get the damn thing? They won’t leave it in front of my door, & the builder keeps pissing & moaning about not being there to pick it up! Round & round, & I’m so sick of the word dishwasher I COULD VOMIT! ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/13 "2018-12-28T00:09:29Z")
I got a countertop dishwasher. Seems nice. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/14 "2018-12-28T01:38:02Z")
Yay! Let us know how well it works. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dishwasher-no-mni-rant/815622/15 "2018-12-29T14:18:22Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Yay! Let us know how well it works. Used it once so far & it works great.