# Dismalest movie ending (SPOILERS!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [September 10, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047 "2024-09-10T06:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/81 "2024-09-13T21:36:33Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > The 2008 film _Valkyrie_ has a pretty bleak ending: evil wins and the good guys all die > > To be honest, there are no good guys in that film. The cabal only wanted to kill Hitler because he was losing the war. That’s fair. But there was _some_ nuance. The protagonists were depicted as caring more about the honor of Germany than about territorial conquest. (Of course national pride is always a bit dicey, morally-speaking.) > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Hitler was still trying to find and punish all the conspirators a year later, when the war was almost over. Funny how these personalities keep recurring throughout history. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/82 "2024-09-13T22:45:10Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The protagonists were depicted as caring more about the honor of Germany than about territorial conquest. I sort of do feel sorry for them. Executed with days, and never got to see how the war finally ended, and Hitler’s ignoble ending. And of course, what Germany is like today. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/83 "2024-09-13T23:05:33Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > I’ll go with another Terry Gilliam movie _12 Monkeys._ > > I think that was a dismal-appearing ending, but was actually uplifting if you’d paid attention to the movie. > > It was made clear throughout the movie that you can’t actually change the past. The whole point of everything they did with the time travel was to acquire a sample of the virus, so they could create a vaccine in the future, allowing humanity to return to the surface world. > > And despite the main character’s failure, and ending, he _did_ find enough information on where and when the virus was released for the other people in the future to go back to exactly where they needed to be to get that sample. The implication is that ultimately the program worked, and humanity in the future will be saved. The scientists were willing to kill billions themselves to ensure their future was the same. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/84 "2024-09-14T10:06:10Z")
I don’t have the energy to summarize these, but _American Me_ with Edward James Olmos, and _Alfie_ starring Michael Caine. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/85 "2024-09-14T19:54:21Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > _Alfie_ starring Michael Caine. On that same note, how about the original _Get Carter_. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/86 "2024-09-14T20:02:24Z")
**Looking for Mister Goodbar** and another vote for Sutherland’s Body-Snatchers. Though that was EFFECTIVELY dismal. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/87 "2024-09-14T20:04:19Z")
The Long Good Friday? j ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/88 "2024-09-14T20:08:39Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > _Alfie_ starring Michael Caine. > > On that same note, how about the original _Get Carter_. Heck, at that, there’s _Sleuth_, where — we’re not bothering with spoilers, are we? — it starts off looking like they’ll both wind up with plenty of tax-free money and plenty of much-desired female companionship; and then Caine gets murdered because Olivier figures he can get away with it, and then the law catches Olivier dead to rights because, well, no, that’s not so. And, well, that’s pretty much the whole movie. I mean, yeah, there are movies that go plenty more over the top; but that right there is a bleak little math problem that simply counts down to zero. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/89 "2024-09-14T21:34:42Z")
I just saw **Vertigo** today. Jimmy Stewart thinks he has failed to save the woman he loved. When he finds out she’s really alive, he overcomes his fears long enough to drive her to kill herself. That’s pretty fucked up, right there. Midge is the only likeable character in the whole film and she doesn’t even show up in the last 45 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/90 "2024-09-14T22:15:50Z")
_Kagemusha_ is somewhat a downer at the end, but it’s so beautiful, you hardly notice. > [@CairoCarol](#): > > I wandered around in a weepy daze for a week after seeing it. So, only has for half as long as the movie. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/91 "2024-09-14T23:03:42Z")
I can’t say my mood was particularly improved by the ending of **The Human Centipede**. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/92 "2024-09-14T23:12:23Z")
Nah, nah, that ain’t nothing. Watch Human Centipede 2. I won’t get into here, but there were definitely some moments where I thought, “The whole time this movie was in production, did no one say, ‘Let’s not do this.’” ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/93 "2024-09-15T00:18:25Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > ‘Let’s not do this.’” I say that when I think about watching any Human Centipede movie. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/94 "2024-09-15T01:06:35Z")
Does Boxing Helena count? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/95 "2024-09-15T05:07:46Z")
Heh I just rewatched that a few days ago because I had not seen the full unrated version. My God that was nasty. I get it was a whole “fuck you” from Tom Six as a response to reactions to the first film, but the barbed wire scene? One of the most disturbing things I’ve ever seen. (And since I just saw the remake of **Speak No Evil,** I must add that the _original_ has one of the bleakest endings ever.) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/96 "2024-09-15T10:38:13Z")
Open Water. Never Let Me Go. ---
**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/97 "2024-09-15T10:42:46Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > _Kagemusha_ is somewhat a downer at the end, but it’s so beautiful, you hardly notice. Agree. No one could make horrific warfare montages as breathtaking as Kurosawa. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/98 "2024-09-15T15:10:02Z")
I cant believe no one has mentioned that depressing 1970’s sci fi movie. [https://youtu.be/JyADWAsDoAc?si=AJ7DIlnVer5JichK](https://youtu.be/JyADWAsDoAc?si=AJ7DIlnVer5JichK) ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/99 "2024-09-15T15:21:18Z")
_All Mine to Give_ (1957) Based on the true story of author Dale Eunson’s father who, as the eldest orphaned son, found homes for his siblings on Christmas. I think this eldest orphaned son could have only been about 13 or maybe 14? It is not a happy move and the ending is just…heart wrenchingly dismal. I was about 5 or 6 years old when I first watched this movie with my mother. A real tearjerker and one that I never forgot all these years later. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047/100 "2024-09-15T17:16:59Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > _Kagemusha_ is somewhat a downer at the end, but it’s so beautiful, you hardly notice. Thinking about it, that pretty much applies to Death In Venice as well. Gustave von Aschenbach, having secretly fallen in love with a boy staying at the same hotel, dies of a heart attack (we presume) whilst watching him on the beach. But as you note, the movie is so beautiful, it’s not something that sticks in your mind. j [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dismalest-movie-ending-spoilers/1007047.md?page=6)