# Disney Animated Movie Madness ROUND THREE! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 3, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560 "2008-06-03T00:24:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/41 "2008-06-04T14:42:00Z")
1. Cinderella **17. The Emperor’s New Groove** ENG was the movie that showed Disney could be funny after a long dry spell. 2. 101 Dalmatians **9. Lilo and Stitch** Not even close in my eyes. **4. Sleeping Beauty** 3. Dumbo **5. The Little Mermaid** 21. The Jungle Book **2. Beauty and the Beast** 18. Robin Hood This was a tougher decision than it should have been. **26. Fantasia** 10. Pinocchio **3. Aladdin** 19. Peter Pan 1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs **11. The Lion King** I’m bvery sad to see Mulan die in the last round. It would have been my personal winner. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/42 "2008-06-04T15:45:50Z")
1. The Emperor’s New Groove 2. 101 Dalmatians 3. Sleeping Beauty 4. The Little Mermaid 5. Beauty and the Beast 6. Fantasia 7. Aladdin 8. The Lion King ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/43 "2008-06-04T16:22:38Z")
1. Cinderella 2. Lilo & Stitch 3. Dumbo 4. The Jungle Book 5. Robin Hood 6. Fantasia 7. Peter Pan 8. Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/44 "2008-06-04T17:42:07Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] Pinocchio is simply the best movie Disney ever made. Sorry Fantasia. [/QUOTE] I’ll go one better and say that _Pinocchio_ is simply the greatest animated feature film ever made. Too bad our little woodenhead is lagging (by just a little). Go Pinoch!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/45 "2008-06-04T18:06:56Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] I’ll go one better and say that _Pinocchio_ is simply the greatest animated feature film ever made. Too bad our little woodenhead is lagging (by just a little). Go Pinoch!! 🙂 [/QUOTE] Can I one up you and say that Pinocchio is the greatest achivement in the field of animation to date? Too far? Seriously though. People don’t give Pinocchio enough credit. It is far and away the best American animated feature made, possibly the best in the world. It is the Citizen Kane of American animation. But it looks like it won’t make it to the final 4, and my first round prediction will come true. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/46 "2008-06-04T18:19:39Z")
Sorry, buds, _Pinocchio_ isn’t that good. Good, very good, but not even close to the greatest. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/47 "2008-06-04T18:33:10Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] Sorry, buds, _Pinocchio_ isn’t that good. Good, very good, but not even close to the greatest. [/QUOTE] I think I may actually want to start a CS thread about this. But in terms of pure animation, on a technical level, I don’t think Disney ever re-achived what they did in Pinocchio. And from a plot perspective, I think it is the only Disney adaptation that manages to improve on the original. (And I like the book). Wonder if a debate about cartoons would get any traction in CS? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/48 "2008-06-04T18:38:43Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] I think I may actually want to start a CS thread about this. But in terms of pure animation, on a technical level, I don’t think Disney ever re-achived what they did in Pinocchio. And from a plot perspective, I think it is the only Disney adaptation that manages to improve on the original. (And I like the book). Wonder if a debate about cartoons would get any traction in CS? [/QUOTE] I am sure it would. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/49 "2008-06-04T18:55:29Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] I think I may actually want to start a CS thread about this. But in terms of pure animation, on a technical level, I don’t think Disney ever re-achived what they did in Pinocchio. And from a plot perspective, I think it is the only Disney adaptation that manages to improve on the original. (And I like the book). Wonder if a debate about cartoons would get any traction in CS? [/QUOTE] I’d certainly be there because while _Fantasia_ may be ambitious, _Pinocchio_ is simply, even modestly, perfect. It only takes a closer examination of Disney’s legacy in, say, the last half-century to illustrate how amazingly risky and unique the film actually is. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/50 "2008-06-04T19:00:50Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] Wonder if a debate about cartoons would get any traction in CS? [/QUOTE] I’d like to read it. Pinocchio is one of my least favorite movies. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/51 "2008-06-04T19:00:57Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] But it looks like it won’t make it to the final 4, and my first round prediction will come true. [/QUOTE] I think _The Little Mermaid_ will beat _The Jungle Book_ as well, which makes me die a little inside. _The Little Mermaid_ was the beginning of Disney’s renaissance in the 90’s, but, frankly, it wasn’t that well animated. I don’t fault the studio … they were still working to get their chops back. But the drawings are often stiff and feel overly-keyframed. Compare how Ariel and her friends move in [this scene](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPUmv3U2XY&feature=related) with Mowgli, Kaa, and Shere Khan in [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T0I5UepXMA). It’s like night and day. The Jungle Book characters have a weight and physicality that is entirely absent from the Little Mermaid characters. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/52 "2008-06-04T20:12:12Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] I think I may actually want to start a CS thread about this. But in terms of pure animation, on a technical level, I don’t think Disney ever re-achived what they did in Pinocchio. And from a plot perspective, I think it is the only Disney adaptation that manages to improve on the original. (And I like the book). Wonder if a debate about cartoons would get any traction in CS? [/QUOTE] You’d get a lot of interest from the various anime fans here, too. While there are the usual “it’s animated, it’s garbage for children” here on the Dope, we’ve got a lot higher percentage of people who view animation as a valid art form. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/53 "2008-06-04T21:31:15Z")
[Ok, here it is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=470620) ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/54 "2008-06-04T21:31:54Z")
1. Cinderella 2. 101 Dalmatians 3. Dumbo 4. The Jungle Book 5. Robin Hood 6. Fantasia 7. Peter Pan 8. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/55 "2008-06-04T22:52:38Z")
1. Cinderella **17. The Emperor’s New Groove** If you cut the cat & mouse chase sequences from Cinderella, it’s about 10 minutes long. And Emperor is hilarious. 1. 101 Dalmatians **9. Lilo and Stitch** I’m not a fan of 60’s stylized animation. I don’t think anything from the 60s is going to win a matchup. **4. Sleeping Beauty** 13. Dumbo Tough one. I’ll vote for SB here because it’s my kids favorite, and Dumbo scared the crap out of my daughter. **5. The Little Mermaid** 21. The Jungle Book Absolute no-brainer. I don’t care if the animation isn’t up to snuff; the songs & screenplay are wonderful. And I hate how they emasculated Kipling. **2. Beauty and the Beast** 18. Robin Hood In a walkover. **26. Fantasia** 10. Pinocchio Pinocchio may be the pinnacle of animation art, but Fantasia is just more fun to watch. Waltz of the Flowers literally gives me chills every time. **3. Aladdin** 19. Peter Pan Like Little Mermaid, great songs, great script. Demerits to PP for “What Makes the Red Man Red” **6. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs** 11. The Lion King Tough one. Going with historical import. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/56 "2008-06-05T00:44:59Z")
Whoa, Nelly, sports fans! Have we got some upsets here in Round Three! Number one seed Cinderella was knocked off by #17 The Emperor’s New Groove. #9 Lilo and Stitch was overtaken by #25 101 Dalmatians. #10 Pinocchio got beat by #26 Fantasia. Last in the upset department is #11 The Lion King over #5 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs! Four upsets over eight match ups shows a lot of close competition in the trenches here. Who wins in Round Four to get to the quarter finals? Only you, the voters, can say! Results: 1 Cinderella 18 17 The Emperor’s New Groove 19 25 101 Dalmatians 24 9 Lilo and Stitch 18 4 Sleeping Beauty 18 13 Dumbo 14 5 The Little Mermaid 25 21 The Jungle Book 17 2 Beauty and the Beast 30 18 Robin Hood 12 26 Fantasia 22 10 Pinocchio 20 3 Aladdin 33 19 Peter Pan 9 5 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 19 11 The Lion King 23 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/57 "2008-06-06T01:04:51Z")
1. Cinderella 2. 101 Dalmatians 3. Dumbo 4. The Little Mermaid 5. Beauty and the Beast 6. Fantasia 7. Aladdin 8. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/58 "2008-06-06T01:05:56Z")
Sigh. That’s what being on the road gets ya… totally forgot that Wednesday was _yesterday_. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/59 "2008-06-06T01:47:03Z")
Ok, I just saw this thread. Any contest in which _The Emperor’s New Groove_ is adjudged to be better than _Sleeping Beauty_ has lost all pretense of validity. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560/60 "2008-06-06T01:59:18Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq] Ok, I just saw this thread. Any contest in which _The Emperor’s New Groove_ is adjudged to be better than _Sleeping Beauty_ has lost all pretense of validity. [/QUOTE] Or maybe you need to get your sense of humor checked, The Emperor’s New Groove is fantastic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-animated-movie-madness-round-three/451560.md?page=4)