# Disney is appointing group to determine official Star Wars canon

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**Created:** [January 9, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374 "2014-01-09T17:38:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/41 "2014-01-10T14:29:05Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> The best decision would be that Eps 1-3 are not canon…

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Absolutely. That would be a bold move…and free them up to make their own Episodes 1-3 if they so desired.

There’s probably a secret rider in the sales agreement that Disney, may not, for any reason, contradict anything that Lucas himself produced, or all rights immediately revert back to George.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/42 "2014-01-10T14:44:40Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I’m not sure - the success of the Avengers has made Hollywood obsessed with cross-media internally-consistent shared universes, and Disney is trying to replicate that with SW. They might consider establishing a concrete canon a crucial first step.

I think the main problem with Hollywood is the people who make the decisions (or at least control the purse strings) don’t understand at all why The Avengers was successful.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/43 "2014-01-10T14:46:35Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> You just need an addendum to episode 3, where someone (Yoda? Sure, why not.) wakes up and says “A weird dream, that was.”

Ah, the “Dallas” maneuver. Well played, sir.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/44 "2014-01-10T15:13:48Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I think the main problem with Hollywood is the people who make the decisions (or at least control the purse strings) don’t understand at all why The Avengers was successful.

Hey, Joss can’t direct everything.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/45 "2014-01-10T17:49:01Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Ah, the “Dallas” maneuver. Well played, sir.

For it to really be the Dallas maneuver, wouldn’t Anakin have to wake up and find Padme safe in the shower?

I find I’m liking this idea more and more.

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/46 "2014-01-10T18:48:47Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> This news seems to be implying that the bigger events and characters are likely to be kept as canonical, the smaller stuff swept under the rug, but in truth that’s just speculation. For all we know the whole shebang is being wiped clean and begun again.

I kinda hope they’ll do this. Not because I’m necessarily down on the EU, but it’d just be kinda neat to have a completely blank slate.

As they’re not going to do that, I’ll also vote for removing Eps. 1-3 from the canon, something else they’re not going to do. Though, do they have “line item” power? They could go all George Lucas on those things–completely excise Jake Lloyd from the first movie, re-write all of the dialogue and have every re-record it, but with (four-part harmony and) feeling this time, CGI lipsync everyone to the new lines, turn Jar-Jar Binks into a bad-ass space pirate, record completely new scenes to insert–it’d be great! 😃

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/47 "2014-01-10T18:53:52Z")

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> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#):
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> For it to really be the Dallas maneuver, wouldn’t Anakin have to wake up and find Padme safe in the shower?

It can still be Yoda waking up to find her in the shower. Less Hayden Christiansen. It’s a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/48 "2014-01-10T19:34:56Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> It can still be Yoda waking up to find her in the shower. Less Hayden Christiansen. It’s a good thing.

Even better: Aayla Secura waking up to find her in the shower.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/49 "2014-01-10T21:14:45Z")

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My list of “must-keep as canon” things in the EU is remarkably small. The first two KOTOR games, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, and maybe Crimson Empire.

A lot of people will say Zahn’s first trilogy is sacred, but I’m on the fence about them. I really like Thrawn and Mara Jade (and Paelleon), but the actual stories are kinda meh. And all that clone nonsense (especially that they have names with extra vowels) can be thrown out the window.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/50 "2014-01-10T23:04:09Z")

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When I saw the subject line for this post I was hoping 12 SW nerds had finally gotten jobs. 😃

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/51 "2014-01-10T23:46:05Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> My list of “must-keep as canon” things in the EU is remarkably small. The first two KOTOR games, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, and maybe Crimson Empire.
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> A lot of people will say Zahn’s first trilogy is sacred, but I’m on the fence about them. I really like Thrawn and Mara Jade (and Paelleon), but the actual stories are kinda meh. And all that clone nonsense (especially that they have names with extra vowels) can be thrown out the window.

I dunno. I liked his clone nonsense better than Lucas’s clone nonsense.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/52 "2014-01-11T01:55:45Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> There’s probably a secret rider in the sales agreement that Disney, may not, for any reason, contradict anything that Lucas himself produced, or all rights immediately revert back to George.

A-_HA_! The old _Order 66 Clause_ trick!

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/53 "2014-01-11T04:11:32Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That was the most likely situation, but not the only one. They may very well have negotiated reprint rights when they signed the original contract.

The only POV this makes any sense from is Dark Horse’s.

LucasFilm isn’t going to give Dark Horse permanent control over any part of their IP, OR willingly reduce the potential value of the IP for future licencees by creating a competitor for them, which is what this would be doing.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-is-appointing-group-to-determine-official-star-wars-canon/678374/54 "2014-01-11T04:14:12Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> My list of “must-keep as canon” things in the EU is remarkably small. The first two KOTOR games, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, and maybe Crimson Empire.
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> A lot of people will say Zahn’s first trilogy is sacred, but I’m on the fence about them. I really like Thrawn and Mara Jade (and Paelleon), but the actual stories are kinda meh. And all that clone nonsense (especially that they have names with extra vowels) can be thrown out the window.

The KOTOR era is so far in the past compared to the movies I doubt Disney will care one way or another whether its canonicity is nixed or not.

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