# Disney Sequels

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 11, 2001, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032 "2001-02-11T12:01:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/1 "2001-02-11T12:01:43Z")

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Okay, now I AM a little pissed. I remarked jokingly that I was a bit ticked that Disney had the gall to put out a sequel to “Lady and the Tramp” (one of my favorite Disney films.) But now I read in alt.disney.animation this morning :

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> “Cinderella 2: Dreams Come True” has been announced for a February 2002 release. This is not a joke.

Gahh!!! I GIVE UP!!! Why can’t they spend their money doing something original and just leave the classics the fuck alone!

The only way I can see this being any good is if it were subtitled “This Time It’s Personal!”

What next? “Pinnocchio 2 : Back to Firewood?”

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**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/2 "2001-02-11T12:41:17Z")

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Euty dear, if you are going to keep getting pissy you will need to change those pants. We don’t want a chaffed, pissy Euty walking arond do we ?

I agree with you , somethings should be left alone.

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**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/3 "2001-02-11T12:47:26Z")

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They do it because they know it’ll make millions anyway, despite the fact that it’s derivative crap, and this way they don’t have to pay someone to think up an original concept. If they actually cared about the quality of their movies, most of their recent “original” works never would have seen the light of day. They know they just have to slap the Disney label on it and parents will take their kids to see it.

Personally, I’m looking forward to “Peter Pan 2: Never Say Neverland Again.” 😉

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**Author:** ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/4 "2001-02-11T16:48:34Z")

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Kenny Everett made a sequel to **“Bambi”** that was thoroughly brilliant (IMO). It was entitled **“Bambi versus Godzilla”** and consisted, IIRC (it was over 20 years ago) of about 30 seconds of credits and 1 second of action. Bambi lost. Unless I dreamed it, this is really true.

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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/5 "2001-02-11T17:46:12Z")

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[Nope, you didn’t dream it.](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0064064)

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/6 "2001-02-11T17:53:18Z")

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Bambi Meets Godzilla was actually done by a Canadian man named Marv Newland.

Disney himself once said, “I don’t believe in making sequels.”

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**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/7 "2001-02-11T18:14:10Z")

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Wow. I hadn’t thought Disney could piss me off even more.

I’m still seething over “Hercules”. Who in fuck told them that it would be a good idea to take a story about divine rape, adultery, jealousy, poinsonings, and shit-shoveling and make it into a kids movie by removing…say…everything?

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/8 "2001-02-11T18:41:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mobo85 \*  
> \*\*Disney himself once said, “I don’t believe in making sequels.” \*\*

Actually, the direct quote was in refernce to distributors asking him for a sequel to “The Three Little Pigs” after it became so popular. His comeback was “You can’t top pigs with pigs.”

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/9 "2001-02-11T19:25:41Z")

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> **Quoted from Euty:**  
> His comeback was “You can’t top pigs with pigs.”

Of course you can. How else are you gonna get more pigs?  
😃

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/10 "2001-02-11T20:07:23Z")

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There was also a sequel to Bambi Meets Godzilla!!!

Called Bambi’s Revenge. The dumb deer still got the short end of the stick!

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2001, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/11 "2001-02-11T22:46:05Z")

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I’m with you on this one **Euty**. I was living with my 1st ex-fiance and her son, and we had an argument because I did not want to buy the direct-to-video sequel to Beauty and Beast. Disney’s just pumping out more crap after more crap - all for direct-to-video profits, proving that quality and integrity for the name comes second to how much they can fleece the parents for.

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2001, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/12 "2001-02-12T01:50:01Z")

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Jean Louise, no!

What happens, does Cinderella get a divorce?

Does she run away from her family, for a biker named Bubba?

Does she have an affair with one of Snow White’s seven drarves?  
Prince Charming or whoever lose all of his fortune because he invested in [Pets.com](http://Pets.com)?

No, I really want to know what _masterpiece_ the Disney Corporation will grace us with?

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**Author:** ![blur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dbc845/32.png) [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2001, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/13 "2001-02-12T02:14:26Z")

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If Disney can keep selling these pieces of crap, then there is no reason for them to stop. When I was growing up, I don’t remember any good Disney movies. (I’m 27) I always thought they were crap. They had a good run for a few years, but now they are trying to rest on their brandname.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2001, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/14 "2001-02-12T03:30:54Z")

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Ya know what they should do? A _Tarzan_ TV series, with the 7 year old Tarzan. The little Tantor and the little Terk were adooooorable.

The only Disney sequels I’ve liked are the _Beauty and the Beast Christmas_ (partially because I have a crush on Belle) and _The Rescuers Down Under_ (because of its quite impressive use of CGI for the time).

The rest suck. Even the _Lion King_ one.

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**Author:** ![Iolanthe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7bcc69/32.png) [@Iolanthe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iolanthe)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2001, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/15 "2001-02-12T06:03:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eutychus55 \*  
> \*\*What next? “Pinnocchio 2 : Back to Firewood?”  
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Hey, **Euty**? Not to cause you even more pain, but:

[http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093743](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093743)  
“Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night”

I actually remember the ads for it. I believe it has been withdrawn from circulation.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2001, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/16 "2001-02-13T06:13:09Z")

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Why doesn’t Disney just make the animated version of “Into the Woods” and be done with it? It is like the ultimate sequel to many of Grimm’s and other’s Fairie Tales done in one musical. They cannot possibly do better with what they’re planning.

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**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2001, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/17 "2001-02-13T06:34:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by capacitor \*  
> \*\*Why doesn’t Disney just make the animated version of “Into the Woods” and be done with it? \*\*

Damn you, **capacitor**! If they do this now, I’m going to have to have you flogged!

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2001, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/18 "2001-02-18T23:07:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Protesilaus \*  
> **Personally, I’m looking forward to "Peter Pan 2: Never Say Neverland Again."**

From some damn Disney press release :

“Peter Pan: Return to Never Land” will be a President’s Day weekend release in 2002. It’s set in London during World War II, when Jane, the daughter of the now-grown Wendy character from the original “Pan,” is kidnapped by the durable Captain Hook."

:: puts gun to head :: \< BLAMMO! \>

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/19 "2001-02-19T01:59:15Z")

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Dammit **Euty** , I was going to post about that. I just read about that in [Animation Blast](http://www.animationblast.com/news). There are now two eyewitnesses to the tragedy. Peter Pan II is now set in the middle of World War II! And it will be theatrically released (as opposed to out on video, which would be easier to ignore.)

But, look on the bright side. It isn’t a summer release, so it isn’t the big movie. And their summer release that year, _Lilo and Stitch_, appears to be halfway decent.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/20 "2001-02-19T04:26:37Z")

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## Qpuote from Iolanthe: quote:

Originally posted by Eutychus55  
What next? “Pinnocchio 2 : Back to Firewood?”

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Hey, Euty? Not to cause you even more pain, but:

[http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093743](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093743)  
“Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night”

I actually remember the ads for it. I believe it has been withdrawn from circulation.  
Actually, there was a “sequel” even further back than that. From the wasted days of my childhood in the 1960s I recall “Pinocchio’s Adventres Beyond the Moon”, a translated version of anb Italian cartoon. hat has the puppet-boy turned back into a puppet for being nasty. He ends up going to space with Gepetto in a rocket ship.

I don’t recal this etail myself, by Michael Medved claims in one f hs books that a turtle character is named (presumably by the cynical translators) “Agent DV8” (say it out loud).

Now I have to go look this one up on the IMDB.

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