# Disney Sequels **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2001, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032 "2001-02-11T12:01:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/21 "2001-02-19T05:44:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Iolanthe \* > Hey, **Euty**? Not to cause you even more pain, but: > > [http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093743](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093743) > “Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night” > > I actually remember the ads for it. I believe it has been withdrawn from circulation. No matter how much I’d like to, we can’t blame Disney for “Pinocchio/Emperor of the Night”. This is from the fine folks at Filmation Studios :rolleyes: If you’re unfamiliar with them, they’re the animation company behind “Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids.” ---
**Author:** ![cleosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@cleosia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cleosia)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/22 "2001-02-19T19:05:32Z")
Yes, but we can still blame Disney for _The Black Cauldron_. I seem to remember them trying to deny its existence for the longest time (it was a wretched film). Now somehow, it seems to have become a classic! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/23 "2001-02-19T22:43:41Z")
I don’t know if Disney was trying to DENY the existence of The Black Cauldron. I think they just downplayed it. The last time I was at the “Magic Kingdom” part of DisneyWorld one of the snack bars was done u in a Magic Cauldron motif, right down to the unfamiliar characters painted on the walls. Must’vre confused the HECK out of the kids not old enough to remember that far back – at least until they finally released the video. ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/24 "2001-03-23T17:02:38Z")
Yo, **Euty**! Knowing as I do how much you love Disney making useless sequels to classic movies (and everything else), I have two bits for you. 1. The video sequel to Hunchback (yeah, the one with the granite turds …ahem… gargoyles) now has a [trailer](http://a292.g.akamaitech.net/d/292/2271/30d/1a1a1a154977aede0c4278a6d80a39af187ce1507fe157bf2453c72f94fc71df42aa0c6dd03baa107eed61d3389cfd6acf01/the_hunchback_of_notre_dame_2_video_and_dvd_trailer_300.mov) for your viewing enjoyment. (I didn’t dare click on the link, so I don’t know if it works.) 2. A [Dumbo sequel](http://www.cartoonresearch.com/comments.html#HUNCH) in in the works. _“The Disney spokesperson in the announcement was quick to point out that the new film will have no black crows or pink elephants.”_ Cheers! **SterlingN** [sub]Please put the gun down!!![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/25 "2001-03-23T17:40:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eutychus55 \* > \*\* > From some damn Disney press release : > > “Peter Pan: Return to Never Land” will be a President’s Day weekend release in 2002. It’s set in London during World War II, when Jane, the daughter of the now-grown Wendy character from the original “Pan,” is kidnapped by the durable Captain Hook." > > :: puts gun to head :: \< BLAMMO! \> > \*\* Assuming that the crocodile didn’t eat him, wouldn’t Captain Hook be in his 70s or 80s during WWII? Also, I can just picture the conversation on the battleship: Royal Navy guy: Captain, we’ve spotted a ship ahead! Captain: Is it the Bismarck?! Royal Navy guy: Err…no, sir. It looks like a three masted pirate vessel Captain: Fire the guns! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/26 "2001-03-23T18:11:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by capacitor \* > \*\*Why doesn’t Disney just make the animated version of “Into the Woods” and be done with it? It is like the ultimate sequel to many of Grimm’s and other’s Fairie Tales done in one musical. They cannot possibly do better with what they’re planning. \*\* :::shudder::: Disney + Sondheim = two great men rolling over in their graves ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/27 "2001-03-23T18:12:26Z")
I dunno what you’re all complaining about! When was the last time you saw something **original** in a XXX video? ::: ducks and runs ::: ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/28 "2001-03-23T18:12:49Z")
I, too, was ticked when I saw the commercial for _Lady and the Tramp 2_. The original is one of my favorite Disney movies. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/29 "2001-03-23T18:46:08Z")
Not that the theatrical releases of Disney films are anything but sick, anti-woman crap, but the direct to video sequels are POORLY-DONE sick, anti-woman crap. The characters are somehow made MORE cardboard, the plots MORE formulaic, and the songs COMPLETELY unmemorable. Like “Triumph of the Will,” Disney movies are evil, but they are made well. The sequels are just crap. Oh, God! I invoked the Nazis! Well, this thread should have died a week ago, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/30 "2001-03-23T18:59:19Z")
::: (debating whether the title of JuanitaTech’s post was in response to mine or not) ::: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/31 "2001-03-23T23:47:06Z")
I can’t believe nobody has posted about _The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea_, yet! Yep, ANOTHER one. So, which ones do we still have to look forward to? Snow White II - Divorced and Returned to the Forest? Sleeping Beauty II - Return to a Different Forest? 102 Dalmatians - the Animated Version? The Fox and the Hound II - Return to a Forest Not Unlike Snow White’s & Sleeping Beauty’s, but Not the Same? Aladdin Part XIV - the Genie Kicks Off? Here’s the really sad part - as I’m thinking about my Disney collection to make fun of possible sequels (I have most of the Classics - none of the sequels except _The Rescuers Down Under_), I’m realizing that most of them have sequels already made or planned. _Fantasia_, for one, plus all the others already mentioned here. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/32 "2001-03-24T00:06:49Z")
Fantasia 2000, unlike all the others, was a planned item – albeit about 59 years later than planned! And, also unlike the others, IMHO and that of my wife, it pretty much lives up to the original’s standard. We’ve decided that one of the 21st Century generation gap signs will be whether one gets graduation-nostalgic or giggles about Ducks on the Ark when Pomp and Circumstance is played. ---
**Author:** ![VitrolicBump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a587f6/32.png) [@VitrolicBump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VitrolicBump)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/33 "2001-03-24T00:57:18Z")
My First post. I love all things Disney EXCEPT the sequels. What are they thinking besides money? I agree that they are, for the most part, pure crap. You may resume your very important conversation. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/34 "2001-03-24T01:21:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dlgirl \* > \*\*You may resume your very important conversation. \*\* This is the Pit. None of the coversations here are important. For that, go to MPSIMS so somebody can hit on you. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/35 "2001-03-24T01:48:11Z")
…the different TV series based on feature films? _Buzz Lightyear of Star Command_ can be amusing with the way they play around with SF cliches (though _Futurama_ does it better). The _Aladdin_ series was actually pretty good. Those are the only ones I’ve seen. (Other Disney TV series I’ve liked include _Duck Tales, Darkwing Duck_ and _Gargoyles_, but they were not based on feature films.) ---
**Author:** ![VitrolicBump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a587f6/32.png) [@VitrolicBump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VitrolicBump)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/36 "2001-03-24T03:23:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by dlgirl \* > > \*\*You may resume your very important conversation. \*\* > > This is the Pit. None of the coversations here are important. For that, go to MPSIMS so somebody can hit on you. \*\* I know this isn’t important. That was my point. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/37 "2001-03-24T03:36:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dlgirl \* > \*\*I know this isn’t important. That was my point. \*\* \ Now she’s going to be mad at me! \ Sorry for sounding like a jerk. I was attempting to sound dry, but was in too blank a mood to pull it off. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/38 "2001-03-24T03:41:15Z")
I used to get pissed when artists would release covers of older songs that I really liked, until a friend pointed out to me that making another version in no way destroys the original that I liked so much. So you always have the option of watching the originals as many times as you like every time you think about them making a bastardized sequel. I’m not saying this to be facetious - it really worked for me to think of it this way. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![VitrolicBump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a587f6/32.png) [@VitrolicBump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VitrolicBump)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/39 "2001-03-24T03:56:02Z")
dropzone, I’m not mad at you. I guess I just am not great at posting using emotion. Sorry!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2001, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032/40 "2001-03-24T06:24:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*I used to get pissed when artists would release covers of older songs that I really liked, until a friend pointed out to me that making another version in no way destroys the original that I liked so much. So you always have the option of watching the originals as many times as you like every time you think about them making a bastardized sequel. > > I’m not saying this to be facetious - it really worked for me to think of it this way. > > Esprix \*\* I would agree with this with one caveat. Madonna’s version of _American Pie_ is more than just a cover. It’s a sacrilege blasphemous enough to justify burning the Material Girl on a pyre made up of her old concert costumes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disney-sequels/54032.md?page=1)