# Disney's "Encanto" (OPEN SPOILERS after first post) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** disney-hulu\ **Created:** [December 24, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601 "2021-12-24T19:03:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/61 "2022-03-13T09:21:00Z")
Just yesterday watched this and overall enjoyed. Liked most of the songs but had a hard time following what they were saying in the Madrigal family song and “We Don’t Talk About Bruno.” I always use captions and couldn’t possibly read fast enough to get everything. I thought it was sort of “mean” of the Encanto to tease little Mirabel that she was going to get a magic door and room like everyone else only to make the would-be door slowly disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/62 "2022-03-14T10:37:10Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I always use captions and couldn’t possibly read fast enough to get everything. Welcome to the world of Lin-Manuel Miranda. > [@Skypist](#): > > I thought it was sort of “mean” of the Encanto to tease little Mirabel that she was going to get a magic door and room like everyone else only to make the would-be door slowly disappear. Pretty much everything about that and everything most of her family (apart from her parents) do to her for the next ten years is horrendously cruel. By rights Mirabel ought to be a basket case off cutting her arms somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/63 "2022-03-14T15:11:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Pretty much everything about that and everything most of her family (apart from her parents) do to her for the next ten years is horrendously cruel. To be fair, there’s no indication that Luisa, Antonio, and Felix ever treated her with anything less than love. It’s mostly Abuela and Isabela acting like that. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/64 "2022-03-14T15:58:40Z")
After watching this for the millionth time with my 3 year old last night, I had a revelation about Bruno. Bruno doesn’t just get random visions, he has to specifically look for something. So that means that all the villagers complaining about him in the song probably noticed something wrong in the first place and asked Bruno about it. Like, “My fish hasn’t been eating well lately, can you look into it?” or “I noticed some more hair in the shower drain, am I losing my hair?” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/65 "2022-03-14T16:05:54Z")
Or that after the nature of his _gift_ became well-known, they took any remark as a prophecy. “Your fish doesn’t look so great.” “Sure are putting down the Arepas.” I have to wonder how much the family’s efforts contributed to the bad health of the village. If you know someone’s going to heal you or do the heavy lifting, people are going to get lazy and careless. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/66 "2022-03-14T16:09:12Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Or that after the nature of his _gift_ became well-known, they took any remark as a prophecy. “Your fish doesn’t look so great.” “Sure are putting down the Arepas.” Well that’s true. He even says to Pepa in the final song that he wasn’t making a prophecy when he was talking about her wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/67 "2022-03-14T16:18:02Z")
Even though I know it’s done for exposition, the fact that members of the family have to be introduced to other people living in their tiny remote village slightly bothers me. I suppose Mariano not “noticing” Dolores is part of the point (as Dolores even points out) but still, he should at least known who she is. And likewise the kids at the beginning - where did they come from, that they don’t know who any of the family members are? (Don’t mind me - I also wonder about the economics of an isolated jungle village too. OVERTHINKING.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/68 "2022-03-14T16:24:11Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Bruno doesn’t just get random visions, he has to specifically look for something. So that means that all the villagers complaining about him in the song probably noticed something wrong in the first place and asked Bruno about it. Like, “My fish hasn’t been eating well lately, can you look into it?” or “I noticed some more hair in the shower drain, am I losing my hair?” I’m not sure that follows. Imagine he’s looking to see something that’s going to happen or not a year from now, and he sees (a) _it,_ flanked by (b) a guy who’s grown a gut and a guy who’s lost his hair. What happens next? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/69 "2022-03-14T16:24:32Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I have to wonder how much the family’s efforts contributed to the bad health of the village. If you know someone’s going to heal you or do the heavy lifting, people are going to get lazy and careless. Those donkeys do seem to get out _quite a lot_. Their owner is very careless and too lazy to build a proper fence to hold them in, clearly, knowing he can always count on Luisa to help him. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/70 "2022-03-14T16:25:55Z")
And how did that church get crooked? Or was really it a case of “I want a new view”? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/71 "2022-03-14T16:29:31Z")
And Pepa! Pepa’s life must be miserable! What if her emotion-induced rain is the only thing keeping the crops from dying? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/72 "2022-03-14T16:32:18Z")
They also ask Luisa to reroute the river. I mean, FFS people… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/73 "2022-03-14T16:39:06Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > They also ask Luisa to reroute the river. I mean, FFS people… Those poor confused fish. > [@ekedolphin](#): > > And Pepa! Pepa’s life must be miserable! What if her emotion-induced rain is the only thing keeping the crops from dying? People just start pinching her, pushing onions in her face and telling sad stories. “CRY OR MY CHILDREN STARVE! No pressure though.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/74 "2022-03-14T16:41:02Z")
I haven’t seen much to suggest that the citizens of the Encanto at large are willing to do much of _anything_ to take care of themselves, rather than just rely on the Madrigals to fix their problems. And Abuela has been enabling that behavior. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/75 "2022-03-14T16:43:56Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I haven’t seen much to suggest that the citizens of the Encanto at large are willing to do much of _anything_ to take care of themselves, rather than just rely on the Madrigals to fix their problems. Well, that’s kinda the point of the final song right? The town starts helping out and the family stops pressuring themselves. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/76 "2022-03-14T16:44:41Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Well, that’s kinda the point of the final song right? The town starts helping out and the family stops pressuring themselves Yep. Lots of character development. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/77 "2022-03-14T17:22:36Z")
Even the donkeys start helping. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/78 "2022-03-14T17:55:01Z")
I think the donkeys sneak out because they like Luisa. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/79 "2022-03-14T22:04:04Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > And Pepa! Pepa’s life must be miserable! What if her emotion-induced rain is the only thing keeping the crops from dying? I assumed that was part of why she’s with Felix — he can make her laugh so hard that she cries. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-encanto-open-spoilers-after-first-post/956601/80 "2022-03-14T22:51:44Z")
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