Disney's Frozen?

Actually, my daughter’s all about “Do You Want To Build A Snowman?”.

Personally, I enjoyed the movie, but I could do without the singing. Apparently, Tangled was a musical? I don’t remember, but I definitely noticed it with Frozen - the songs were all very “Broadway” to me.

As mentioned in the thread about movies people were surprised were so bad, **Mrs. FtG **and I found it to be an awful movie by any standards. And some others also posted in that thread.

Crappy, crappy movie.

I liked the movie, and loved the soundtrack, which was written by Robert Lopez, who did Avenue Q & Book of Mormon.

Mr. Dibble:

Absolutely. “I’ve Got a Dream” is, IMHO, one of the best musical numbers Disney has ever put in film. And then there’s “When Will My Life Begin?”, “Mother Knows Best”, “I See the Light”…

I always get yanked out of these movies by the dumbest things. Anomalous winter and everything freezes solid – so girl goes running off without even grabbing a parka or gloves? Dang, she’s gonna catch her death of cold out there. But no, except for one or two token shivers, she never seems to notice the cold. I think Frozen would have been a better movie if some of the animators had come from, I dunno, Minnesota instead of L.A.

Same deal with Tangled. Girl who has lived in a tower for her entire life and has never walked further than 100 feet at one time gets free and runs around barefoot for the entire movie. Her hair must have been continually channeling healing power to her feet (or they live in some kind of alternate reality where there are no thorns or dropped Lego blocks). I can’t even walk to the end of the driveway on a summer’s day without stepping on something pointy.

But Frozen? It was OK. Had some good cautionary moments about not communicating enough (and falling in love with the first doofus prince to cross your path). They had to work extra hard to bring in some conflict because there was no real obvious villain. But mostly the plot was a vehicle for some phenomenal animation.

I know it was, but none of them stuck in my daughter’s head (or mine) … unlike, say, Everything is awsome!

Add me to the list who though Frozen was horribly overhyped. I just didn’t enjoy it that much at all. And it isn’t a “it’s a kids movie” thing as I absolutely loved The Princess and the Frog and much of mid 90s Disney movies (as well as the Pixar stuff in the early 2000s). It just wasn’t all that well done to me. I realize that they want to move away from the archetypes of previous “Princess” movies, but I thought it suffered from a lackluster plot (no real good villain, IMO) - which is my same complaint about Pixar’s Brave.

Yeah, mine liked that song too. Now she sings “Do You Want to Hide a Body?” instead. It’s just as catchy but not nearly as wholesome. (I believe she and her brother made up the words to that one. “It doesn’t have to be dead . . .”

We loved Frozen. It’s fun and re-watchable which is my standard with movies.

Of course, the How It Should Have Ended guys have a fantastic video on Frozen that the OP might enjoy. :wink:

Here’s the version I heard first, now there’s a ton of them. :slight_smile:

I liked it. The animation was pretty, and the plot was innovative enough to be interesting. Its hard to think of many kid movies where there’s no villain until the last act, and most of the action hinges on intra-personal conflict between people that are more or less friends.

It was more of a straight-up kids movies then other Disney stuff. There weren’t a lot of references or jokes that were obviously put in to cater to parents. But I sort of appreciated that the films makers were confident enough to leave it like that instead of shoehorning in a bunch of pop-culture references or maudlin meditations or mortality or whatever to keep the adults in their seats.

It had its moments, like when the little girl of “Do You Want to Build a Snowman” follows the clock pendulum with her eyes and purses her mouth up to the keyhole. On the whole, though, I thought John Lassiter was wise to keep Pixar’s untarnished name out of it.

I teach grade school children in China and the girls (the film’s intended demographic) love it a lot. For a lot of them, those song lyrics are the only English they know fluently. Back when Rolling Stone first put the Spice Girls on their cover, they ran an editorial defending the decision saying “Rock n Roll is whatever ten year old girls say it is, and it always has been.” Frozen ain’t my cup of tea, but I can see why the kids like it.

cough Cars II cough
…and now I’m off to get lyrics for “Will You Help Me Hide a Body?” :smiley:

I like the “Do you want to go to Starbucks?” version of the Snowman building song. don’t have youtube link right now, but it’s pretty cute

The “Girl meets Guy, they sing song, fall in love and get married” formula? Didn’t they purposely avert that? They avoided the formulaic villain too. And the wedding at the end. Kept the dead parents, just moved them to in-story.

Compared to Planes, Cars 2 was Citizen Kane.

And Og help us all, there’s Planes 2 on the horizon.

Right, because “Girl thinks she’s in love with handsome successful but shallow guy but realizes her true love love is actually the guy who’s been quietly there at her side all along” isn’t a formula. Add in a “There’s something about me that’s different and I hate it and everyone hates me because of it but as soon as I learn to accept myself the way I am, I and everyone else will love me for that same thing” story. Serve with “conveniently dead parents” and “two wacky sidekicks”.

On that note, why is it always two wacky sidekicks now? Back in my day, the hero got one wacky sidekick. But now it has to be Timon and Pumbaa, Abu and Carpet, Donkey and Puss, Meeko and Flit, Doppler and Ben, Belt and Douglas, Runt and Fish, Louis and Ray, Maximus and Pascal, Buddy and Precious, Sven and Olaf. Mulan even tried to push the envelope with a dragon, a horse, and a cricket but the audience wasn’t ready for three wacky sidekicks yet.

At some point you have to accept that mainstream storytelling is going to be somewhat formulaic. Although, unless I’m misremembering, Ana doesn’t know if Kristoff is her true love or not. We all assume he is but at the end of the movie they’re not engaged and he asks permission to even kiss her.

And we needed Olaf and Sven because when Ana and Kristoff weren’t onscreen together, they needed foils.
edit: And mulan was awesome and this thread is clearly full of broken people.

“Planes” wasn’t Pixar, though.

“It’s for kids” really refers more to the level of the humor and plots and what-not. Having a toddler, I can tell you that he loves stuff that makes me want to poke my eyes out. How does stuff like Barney stay on the air when every grown-up talks about how much they hate it (if the topic comes up)? Because kids love it and when your kids is jumping up and down in excitement, how you feel about the show is pretty irrelevant. Likewise for tons of other children’s media.

The idea that kids really care about quality is pretty misguided as well. Hell, I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s when every cartoon was a half-hour toy commercial and we still thought He-Man, Transformers, GI Joe, etc were totally awesome. They’re still milking the nostalgia train from people who thought shit animation and terrible stories were the best thing ever when they were seven years old. It doesn’t “cost the same” either. You think those crappy Disney knock-off DVDs at Walmart for $2 cost the same to produce as the Disney movies they’re trying to trick you into thinking they represent? But when kids are willing to watch garbage, garbage turns a profit.

None of this is aimed at Frozen, by the way. Just general remarks about children’s oriented media.