# Disney's going to OWN the Box Office this year, aren't they?

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**Created:** [February 13, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473 "2019-02-13T16:51:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/1 "2019-02-13T16:51:13Z")

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So yeah, with the release of the Frozen II trailer today…

> **[The First Frozen 2 Teaser Shows the Sisters Exploring Beyond Arendelle](https://gizmodo.com/the-first-frozen-2-teaser-shows-the-sisters-exploring-b-1832587541)**
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> Disney has released the first teaser trailer for Frozen 2, bringing back Elsa, Anna, Olaf, and Kristoff in an adventure way outside the chilly comforts of Arendelle. Also, there’s ice surfing.

It got my assistant and I thinking about how much Disney has on the slate in 2019.

Captain Marvel  
Avengers: Endgame  
Spider-Man Far From Home  
Dumbo  
Aladdin  
The Lion King  
Toy Story 4  
Star Wars: Episode IX  
Artemis Fowl  
Frozen II

Hell, depending on the scheduling we could add Dark Phoenix and New Mutants under their banner. That’s some big tentpoles out there with 10 major releases.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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… and not a single original property among them. ☹

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Wow, outside of the Disney stuff listed above this summer looks pretty dismal for big summer releases. Godzilla and the Men in Black reboot?

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … and not a single original property among them. ☹

Artemis Fowl, at least, isn’t a remake or a continuation of an ongoing series, though it is a book adaptation. (One could argue that Captain Marvel isn’t, either, unless you consider all of the MCU films to be one big series.)

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/5 "2019-02-13T19:17:53Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … and not a single original property among them. ☹

Dropping THREE remakes of their own movies in a single year seems bonkers to me. They’ve had ONE mild success with that formula; I have to think they would be smarter to pace themselves.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/6 "2019-02-13T19:58:03Z")

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I read an article that pointed out that Disney has never won the Best Picture Oscar, while discussing its takeover of Fox. Fox and its Fox Searchlight subsidiary, has made the kind of serious films that are in contention for awards. So I hope that Disney does release some grown-up movies in addition to these popcorn flicks.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/7 "2019-02-13T20:07:09Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Dropping THREE remakes of their own movies in a single year seems bonkers to me. They’ve had ONE mild success with that formula; I have to think they would be smarter to pace themselves.

I get where you’re coming from, and I don’t necessarily disagree. But they’ve really had more than one mild success with the formula.

Beauty and the Beast: $1.26B  
Cinderella: $540M  
Jungle Book: $966M  
Pete’s Dragon: $143M

One tank in the batch. But they also seem to be counting:

Maleficient: $758M  
Alice in Wonderland: $1.025B  
Alice Through the Looking Glass: $299M

And discounting the 101 Dalmations things from the 90s completely.

That’s a lot of money. And they have Lady and the Tramp under development but delayed. It was originally slated for November but I think committing to Frozen II is the better play.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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I want to see them come out with _Spin and Marty: The Motion Picture_…

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/9 "2019-02-13T21:04:12Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I get where you’re coming from, and I don’t necessarily disagree. But they’ve really had more than one mild success with the formula.
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> Beauty and the Beast: $1.26B  
> Cinderella: $540M  
> Jungle Book: $966M  
> Pete’s Dragon: $143M
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> One tank in the batch. But they also seem to be counting:
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> Maleficient: $758M  
> Alice in Wonderland: $1.025B  
> Alice Through the Looking Glass: $299M
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> And discounting the 101 Dalmations things from the 90s completely.
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> That’s a lot of money. And they have Lady and the Tramp under development but delayed. It was originally slated for November but I think committing to Frozen II is the better play.

Good points. I actually didn’t realize until now that Cinderella and Jungle Book were both straight live-action remakes of the cartoons; I thought they were new movies from the same source. The only one of the three “pure” remakes I’ve seen was Beauty & The Beast, which I found enjoyable but also fairly unnecessary.

Pete’s Dragon was very different from the original, and I would put more in the category with Maleficent and Alice – a new movie borrowing from an existing property. THOSE I understand, even if I would usually rather they start fresh.

The straight remakes just seem like a strange idea because you risk cannibalizing your original work, but, hey, who am I to argue with $1.26 billion in receipts?

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/10 "2019-02-13T21:07:29Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Dropping THREE remakes of their own movies in a single year seems bonkers to me. They’ve had ONE mild success with that formula; I have to think they would be smarter to pace themselves.

Boy, if a billion dollars in profit on one movie is a mild success, sign me up for some mild successes.

I can, incidentally, tell you why “Pete’s Dragon” was the one disappointment; it was absolutely terrible.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/11 "2019-02-13T21:52:57Z")

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Dumbo, Aladdin, and Lion King all coming out within a few months of each does seem like over-saturation. And there’s been a pretty good sized backlash to Aladdin so far.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/12 "2019-02-13T22:24:32Z")

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More money! Less creativity! Ugh.

We need someone with the wealth and resources to step in there and break up the Disney/Hollywood cartel and introduce some serious new innovative filmmaking in there. Unfortunately nobody with the billions of bucks necessary has the mojo to do that.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/13 "2019-02-13T22:49:19Z")

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It doesn’t require billions to compete and make successful movies in Hollywood today. Jason Blum and his Blumhouse Productions company have made a bunch of money, mostly but not entirely in horror films, with most of their films costing less than five million to produce. And it’s not all schlock. They’ve produced Split, Get Out and BlacKkKlansman.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/14 "2019-02-14T00:33:34Z")

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Most originality (YMMV on what that really means) does better on streaming these days. The budgets for movies mean risk taking is best avoided, and testing waters with new ideas is a much safer prospect on non-Network TV.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/15 "2019-02-14T01:20:03Z")

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im waiting for the elsa meets **princess** charming discussions to start adter it comes out

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> im waiting for the elsa meets **princess** charming discussions to start adter it comes out

Going by that teaser, it would be more practical for her to meet up with Moana. (And _why_ couldn’t they have named it _Frozener_?)

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Frozen and Frozener

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I want to see them come out with _Spin and Marty: The Motion Picture_…

Hey, I got that even if nobody else did.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/19 "2019-02-14T02:03:29Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> More money! Less creativity! Ugh.
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> We need someone with the wealth and resources to step in there and break up the Disney/Hollywood cartel and introduce some serious new innovative filmmaking in there. Unfortunately nobody with the billions of bucks necessary has the mojo to do that.

A24, my friend. That’s where the good original stuff is these days.

Ex Machina  
The Lobster  
The incredibly snubbed at the Oscars Eighth Grade  
Under the Skin  
Spring Breakers  
Locke  
Room  
The Witch  
Swiss Army Man  
Moonlight  
The Florida Project  
Lady Bird  
The Disaster Artist  
Hereditary

And that’s just some. A24 is banking some real quality original movies these days.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-going-to-own-the-box-office-this-year-arent-they/829473/20 "2019-02-14T02:53:59Z")

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2Frozen 2Furious

I do wish they had gone with a subtitle instead of a numeral, which I thought Hollywood had grown out of.

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