# Disney's Marvel and Netflix Join Forces to Develop Historic Four Series Epic plus a Mini-Series Even **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 7, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335 "2013-11-07T15:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/1 "2013-11-07T15:28:59Z")
[http://marvel.com/news/story/21476/disneys\_marvel\_and\_netflix\_join\_forces\_to\_develop\_historic\_four\_series\_epic\_plus\_a\_mini-series\_event](http://marvel.com/news/story/21476/disneys_marvel_and_netflix_join_forces_to_develop_historic_four_series_epic_plus_a_mini-series_event) Burbank, Calif. - Nov 7, 2013—The Walt Disney Co. (NYSE: DIS) and Netflix Inc. (NASDAQ: NFLX) today announced an unprecedented deal for Marvel TV to bring multiple original series of live-action adventures of four of Marvel’s most popular characters exclusively to the world’s leading Internet TV Network beginning in 2015. This pioneering agreement calls for Marvel to develop four serialized programs leading to a mini-series programming event. Led by a series focused on “Daredevil,” followed by “Jessica Jones,” “Iron Fist” and “Luke Cage,” the epic will unfold over multiple years of original programming, taking Netflix members deep into the gritty world of heroes and villains of Hell’s Kitchen, New York. Netflix has committed to a minimum of four, thirteen episodes series and a culminating Marvel’s “The Defenders” mini-series event that reimagines a dream team of self-sacrificing, heroic characters More on [Marvel.com](http://Marvel.com): [http://marvel.com/news/story/21476/disneys\_marvel\_and\_netflix\_join\_forces\_to\_develop\_historic\_four\_series\_epic\_plus\_a\_mini-series\_event#ixzz2jyS574Xc](http://marvel.com/news/story/21476/disneys_marvel_and_netflix_join_forces_to_develop_historic_four_series_epic_plus_a_mini-series_event#ixzz2jyS574Xc) ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/2 "2013-11-07T15:30:41Z")
Interesting how well Marvel has succeeded at film/TV, when DC has not. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/3 "2013-11-07T15:42:23Z")
Ah, so that’s where Iron Fist is ending up. I was wondering how a character like him and Luke Cage might end up getting their shot onscreen… Thanks for the update - now I gotta go look up Jessica Jones. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/4 "2013-11-07T15:45:49Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Ah, so that’s where Iron Fist is ending up. I was wondering how a character like him and Luke Cage might end up getting their shot onscreen… > > Thanks for the update - now I gotta go look up Jessica Jones. She’s Luke Cage’s baby momma. A former superhero who turned private eye. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/5 "2013-11-07T16:13:36Z")
It’s interesting to me that Marvel is doing this, given that they’re owned by Disney, which of course owns one of the big three broadcast networks and many cable channels. Also interesting that they appear to be calling the Netflix streaming service “the world’s leading Internet TV Network.” So now Netflix is a TV network? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/6 "2013-11-07T16:36:28Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Interesting how well Marvel has succeeded at film/TV, when DC has not. DC hasn’t succeeded at much at all lately, really. Their comics are floundering, and any TV or movie successes (Arrow, Batmen & Superman movies) seem to be in spite of DC’s involvement. _Green Lantern_ had strong DC input, and we saw how that turned out. Although _Smallville_ did have a lot of DC involvement towards the end of its run; was a few years ago, though. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/7 "2013-11-07T16:45:44Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Interesting how well Marvel has succeeded at film/TV, when DC has not. Marvel is currently enjoying a good run with its movies. Outside of the last 5 - 10 years, though, they’ve been terrible. And even within those 5 - 10 years, you’ve had your Fantastic Fours and Daredevils. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/8 "2013-11-07T16:54:34Z")
Miniseries based in Hell’s Kitchen? Definitely works for me. Maybe they could throw in “Omega The Unknown”. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/9 "2013-11-07T17:31:44Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Interesting how well Marvel has succeeded at film/TV, when DC has not. DC has put out some quality animated movies. I think those have succeeded because they’re putting story first on them. Their movies seem to be concentrating on “toy-tastic,” as Joel Schumacher once said. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/10 "2013-11-07T17:40:33Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Marvel is currently enjoying a good run with its movies. Outside of the last 5 - 10 years, though, they’ve been terrible. And even within those 5 - 10 years, you’ve had your Fantastic Fours and Daredevils. Hey! I _liked_ Fantastic Four! 🙂 Anyway, if I were Marvel or Netflix, I’d be concerned about saturating the market with too much Marvel stuff. It makes it highly likely you’ll get veiwership fatigue. This was a problem for the Star Trek canon when you had ST:NG, Voyager and DS9 all playing at the same time. (Well, maybe not all at the same time but there was some overlapping. Especially with DS9 and Voyager.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/11 "2013-11-07T18:28:52Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Anyway, if I were Marvel or Netflix, I’d be concerned about saturating the market with too much Marvel stuff. It makes it highly likely you’ll get veiwership fatigue. Fair enough, but what’s the alternative? Strike while the iron is hot with _Ant-Man_ – or the other guys maybe spark viewership fatigue with _The Atom_. Or make to cash in on the trend with, I dunno, _Doctor Strange_ – before DC can stink up the joint with Doctor Fate or Doctor Occult or whoever. And so you authorize this project with Iron Fist – because, hey, Mister Terrific fights crime like a decathlon champ with half-a-dozen black belts whenever he isn’t drawing on his electrical bag of tricks, right? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/12 "2013-11-07T18:32:01Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Interesting how well Marvel has succeeded at film/TV, when DC has not. For about a decade, DC kicked Marvel (and everyone else’s) ass when it came to animation. They’ve largely flushed all that down the toilet though. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/13 "2013-11-07T18:34:56Z")
Mister Terrific. Wow, that brings back memories. > **[Mr. Terrific (TV series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Terrific_(TV_series))** > > Mr. Terrific is an American television sitcom that aired on CBS on Mondays at 8:00 p.m., from January 9 to August 28, 1967. Stephen Strimpell starred in the title role. A similar series on NBC, Captain Nice, also aired that season on Mondays, at 8:30 p.m. > The show was an attempt to capitalize on the "camp superhero" craze sparked by the success of the 1966 Batman TV series. > Riding the tide of the camp superhero craze of the 1960s, the show's premise involved gas station attendant Stanley Beamis... Oh… wait… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/14 "2013-11-07T19:27:04Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Interesting how well Marvel has succeeded at film/TV, when DC has not. I think Marvel’s franchise is better balanced than DC’s. With DC you’ve got Batman, Superman, and everyone else. The top two characters overshadow all the rest. So studios concentrate on making Batman and Superman movies and TV series (which make the characters even more dominant) and when you try to expand into other characters, there’s relatively little interest. With Marvel, there’s no dominant characters at the same level as Batman and Superman. Even the top characters like Spiderman or Wolverine or Captain America are still part of the crowd: no single character is bigger than the Marvel universe as a whole. So while you didn’t start with the same huge level of recognition, when you did start making movies and TV series, you didn’t run into the problem of having some characters overwhelm the others. You could introduce the characters individually and build up the entire universe. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/15 "2013-11-07T19:36:07Z")
I know I’ve posted this before… My take is that it’s one more step toward Disney buying a majority stake in Netflix sometime in the next few years. Disney signed that exclusive deal with Netflix that start in 2015 (I believe) and that means that: Star Wars Indiana Jones Marvel Pixar Disney’s animated library The Muppets Tron will all ONLY be appearing on Netflix. To me, that’s Disney preparing to be a monster in the streaming market. Instead of launching their own, they’ll simply buy a big one. They’ve got the money and they’ve got the intellectual property. Netflix has the audience and the streaming service but is vulnerable to other services with exclusive deals and more original content (though they’re working on that). It’s a deal that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/16 "2013-11-07T19:58:13Z")
I’m just a little sad because that means my fantasy blaxploitation Heroes for Hire 70’s period movie will probably never happen. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/17 "2013-11-08T04:09:02Z")
I wonder if we’ll get Dr Strange in the Defenders. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Dollar\_Tallboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Two\_Dollar\_Tallboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Dollar_Tallboy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/18 "2013-11-08T05:49:52Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > my fantasy blaxploitation Heroes for Hire 70’s period movie This is the best idea I’ve heard since Marvel decided to make a cohesive movie universe. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/19 "2013-11-08T08:14:51Z")
> [@](#): > > four of Marvel’s most popular characters If you said Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage, you were wrong! They were never popular. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335/20 "2013-11-08T08:33:18Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I know I’ve posted this before… > > My take is that it’s one more step toward Disney buying a majority stake in Netflix sometime in the next few years. Disney signed that exclusive deal with Netflix that start in 2015 (I believe) and that means that: > > Star Wars > Indiana Jones > Marvel > Pixar > Disney’s animated library > The Muppets > Tron > > will all ONLY be appearing on Netflix. To me, that’s Disney preparing to be a monster in the streaming market. Instead of launching their own, they’ll simply buy a big one. They’ve got the money and they’ve got the intellectual property. Netflix has the audience and the streaming service but is vulnerable to other services with exclusive deals and more original content (though they’re working on that). > > It’s a deal that makes sense. I doubt physical media will be going anywhere. Plus there are simply too many people who can’t (or won’t) get Netflix. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disneys-marvel-and-netflix-join-forces-to-develop-historic-four-series-epic-plus-a-mini-series-even/673335.md?page=2)