# Ditka and Great Debates

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ditka-and-great-debates/817675>\
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**Created:** [July 10, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ditka-and-great-debates/817675 "2018-07-10T20:06:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ditka-and-great-debates/817675/21 "2018-07-12T14:06:14Z")

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I am having a hard time seeing"raise your child with these suggestions and you’ll have a terrible person" and " your child should die" as really being equivalent.

ETA- or even you should let your child live or die without medical intervention.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ditka-and-great-debates/817675/22 "2018-07-12T15:29:35Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I am having a hard time seeing"raise your child with these suggestions and you’ll have a terrible person" and " your child should die" as really being equivalent.
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> ETA- or even you should let your child live or die without medical intervention.

My real beef is with people quoting the post, eliminating the part that reduces it to absurdity, putting the word “your” in 36 point boldface and pretending that is an accurate representation of what I said.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ditka-and-great-debates/817675/23 "2018-07-12T20:02:36Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I’d invite you to think back to your mental state at the time, and imagine your reaction to, let’s say, a self-proclaimed “social Darwinist” who offered up the opinion that we should let such children live or die without medical treatment, to improve the gene pool. That’s an opinion that (while I certainly don’t share) that would be legitimate fodder for debate in GD, divorced from any specific child, but if mentioned in a reply to your post about your hospitalized child, might provoke from you an angry response under the not unreasonable belief that the thought involved your specific child.
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> Yes?

And if I got warned for it’ I’d _still_ deserve the warning.

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