# Dixie Carter Looks Like The Joker **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 18, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477 "2010-02-18T16:17:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/41 "2010-02-19T21:53:44Z")
I personally (you know, IMHO) think this lip puffing trend is just repulsive. I was flipping channels the other night and happened upon a show that had Heidi Fleiss on it. She was never what I’d call a stunning knockout, but her upper lip was so swollen I thought the story was going to be that she got punched out. Nope, rehab. Her lip wasn’t the reason she was on the show, but she looked horrible (aside from the usual looking horrible because you are strung out and need rehab horrible). Meg Ryan used to be cute, now she looks like somebody clocked her in the kisser. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/42 "2010-02-19T22:05:27Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Honestly, how do these women look into the mirror and think “Hey, that looks much better!”? It has to be a self-image disorder like the women who are all skin and bones and think they still look fat, or that little girl who thought that steel hooks looked so cool she wanted to have her hands amputated so she could get robotic appendages. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/43 "2010-02-19T23:08:09Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Gotta do better than that. > > J[ocelyn Wildensetin](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/category/jocelyn-wildensetin/) > > What has been seen cannot be unseen. 😛 > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’ll see your Jocelyn Wildensteins and Joan Rivers and raise you > [Donatella Versace](http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/legacyimages/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/25/donatella_versace.jpg) > [Jackie Stallone (Sly’s mom).](http://www.nudze-sie.pl/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jackie_stallone.jpg) > and [Michaela Romanini.](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/micaela_romanini.jpg) _whimper_ ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/44 "2010-02-20T00:07:10Z")
Regarding the linked PSA in the OP, I was really afraid cervical distonia was something else. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/45 "2010-02-20T00:37:17Z")
Speaking of Meg Ryan… [http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/meg-ryan-before-and-after-plastic-surgery.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/meg-ryan-horror-plastic-surgery&usg=\_\_CKKX6wi2skqaYv5Qntc0PCCvCac=&h=260&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=epIZzhHUoa\_SJM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeg%2Bryan%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/meg-ryan-before-and-after-plastic-surgery.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/meg-ryan-horror-plastic-surgery&usg=__CKKX6wi2skqaYv5Qntc0PCCvCac=&h=260&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=epIZzhHUoa_SJM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeg%2Bryan%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/46 "2010-02-20T00:46:56Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > You know, “victim” is an interesting word in a discussion like this. Presumably she made the choice herself to get her face all messed up (as all these people have), and paid a very good doctor a lot of money, so where does the victimization come in? (Serious thought, not snark.) There have been some women who have been actual victims of plastic surgery,though : as in, the doctor screwed up his job completely. Here’s a [link](http://www.cosmeticsurgery.com/articles/archive/an~48/) that describes one such victim. AS for those linked in the thread: the biggest mistake I always notice is the lips. Generally speaking: leave your lips alone. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/47 "2010-02-20T01:34:05Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > There have been some women who have been actual victims of plastic surgery,though : as in, the doctor screwed up his job completely. > > Here’s a [link](http://www.cosmeticsurgery.com/articles/archive/an~48/) that describes one such victim. > > AS for those linked in the thread: the biggest mistake I always notice is the lips. Generally speaking: leave your lips alone. Lips and nipples…it can be horrid to end up with a ring of scar tissue, or a misshapen or nonfunctional nipple. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/48 "2010-02-20T03:07:39Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > There have been some women who have been actual victims of plastic surgery,though : as in, the doctor screwed up his job completely.\ Absolutely. I have a lot more sympathy for people who go in just wanting a little lift or something, and come out disfigured. I’m not a big fan or supporter of plastic surgery, but it shouldn’t disfigure you. I really don’t know where these women fit in that; I have no idea if they are actually happy with their results, or they’re going out in public, putting the best face on what has happened to them (no pun intended). > [@](#): > > AS for those linked in the thread: the biggest mistake I always notice is the lips. Generally speaking: leave your lips alone. I think you’re right. [Lisa Rinna’s](http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/lisarinna-lips.jpg) a great example of this - she was once a beautiful woman with [normal lips.](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/lisa_rinna_real_lips.jpg) There doesn’t seem to be much they can do after you/they wreck your lips. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/49 "2010-02-20T08:38:24Z")
Dixie Carter has [a natural beauty](http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/369/1282369-dixie-carter-picture.htm) that just needed a touch up. She hasn’t really aged or changed her look (which is classic) in the last forty years. She has great bones! ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/50 "2010-02-20T09:31:29Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Speaking of Meg Ryan… > > [http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/meg-ryan-before-and-after-plastic-surgery.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/meg-ryan-horror-plastic-surgery&usg=\_\_CKKX6wi2skqaYv5Qntc0PCCvCac=&h=260&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=epIZzhHUoa\_SJM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeg%2Bryan%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/meg-ryan-before-and-after-plastic-surgery.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/meg-ryan-horror-plastic-surgery&usg=__CKKX6wi2skqaYv5Qntc0PCCvCac=&h=260&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=epIZzhHUoa_SJM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeg%2Bryan%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1) NO! This saddens me beyond words..☹ ::digs out _Joe Versus the Volcano_ and weeps:: ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/51 "2010-02-20T13:16:16Z")
Sounds to me like somebody got hold of some bad advice, a la, “Do it _now_, honey, 'cause you sure won’t be able to do it _later!_” Whatcha think, kiddos? Other thing is: If I love you, _truly_ love you, what the fuck difference are those wrinkles gonna make? Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/52 "2010-02-20T14:10:31Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96tB4Z\_koU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96tB4Z_koU) > > Okay? > > I love this lady and have had fantasies about her, but some women (maybe most) ought to leave plastic surgery alone. > > Thanks > > Q I think the lighting in that video is pretty weird. It seems extremely harsh and has a weird cast to it. ---
**Author:** ![halfliquid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@halfliquid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/halfliquid)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/53 "2010-02-20T15:45:47Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Gotta do better than that. > > J[ocelyn Wildensetin](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/category/jocelyn-wildensetin/) > > What has been seen cannot be unseen. 😛 I bet she looks normal in a funhouse mirror. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/54 "2010-02-21T08:26:38Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Dixie Carter has [a natural beauty](http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/369/1282369-dixie-carter-picture.htm) that just needed a touch up. She hasn’t really aged or changed her look (which is classic) in the last forty years. She has great bones! Those aren’t bones, they’re cheek implants. But her eyeborws and forehead still move, and she looks human. She’s had work done, but she doesn’t look bad. She’s always been upfront about having had cosmetic surgery. Which is a nice change. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/55 "2010-02-22T15:41:32Z")
> [@astro](#): > > I think the lighting in that video is pretty weird. It seems extremely harsh and has a weird cast to it. Since both she and Hal have been in the biz for many years, I suprised they didn’t call for a re-shoot. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/56 "2010-02-22T16:28:08Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > … > > (I almost think I should put a warning on Ms. Romanini - her picture scares me.) [Austin Powers]She’s a man, baby![/Austin Powers] If Joan Rivers has any more face lifts her eyes will be on the side if her head. ---
**Author:** ![McGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@McGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McGeek)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/57 "2010-02-22T16:44:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Speaking of Meg Ryan… > > [http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/meg-ryan-before-and-after-plastic-surgery.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/meg-ryan-horror-plastic-surgery&usg=\_\_CKKX6wi2skqaYv5Qntc0PCCvCac=&h=260&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=epIZzhHUoa\_SJM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeg%2Bryan%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/meg-ryan-before-and-after-plastic-surgery.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crapplasticsurgery.com/meg-ryan-horror-plastic-surgery&usg=__CKKX6wi2skqaYv5Qntc0PCCvCac=&h=260&w=400&sz=38&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=epIZzhHUoa_SJM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmeg%2Bryan%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1) I couldn’t get this link to work, but I don’t need to. I belong to a local women’s club, where they showed the remake of “The Women” for a movie night last year. That was the first time I saw Meg Ryan’s revised face. To me it was so obvious that it looked bad, at first I actually wondered if, for that movie, they had simply made her up to LOOK like she’d had plastic surgery. After all, since her character was a wealthy woman worried about losing her husband to a younger woman. So out loud I asked, “Wow, is that how Meg Ryan really looks now?” And one of the older women in the club responded, in all seriousness, “Yes, doesn’t she look GREAT?” I decided to say nothing further. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/58 "2010-02-22T17:08:31Z")
> [@McGeek](#): > > “Wow, is that how Meg Ryan really looks now?” My only question is, why did Meg Ryan decide she wanted to look like Melanie Griffith? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/59 "2010-02-22T18:29:15Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > [Austin Powers]She’s a man, baby![/Austin Powers] > > If Joan Rivers has any more face lifts her eyes will be on the side if her head. Or, to quote Patsy from _Absolutely Fabulous_, “One more facelift and she’ll have a beard.” ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477/60 "2010-02-23T05:43:22Z")
I keep expecting, Dixie, Meg, Joan and Melanie to come in here and chastise me. Dixie once could have, and I guess she could again, but I’d have to have a few first! 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-carter-looks-like-the-joker/529477.md?page=4)