# Dixie Chicks Defiant & Naked **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015 "2003-04-25T02:23:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/21 "2003-04-25T13:28:41Z")
I wonder when the mainstream fans who are trying them out BECAUSE of the heat they are taking are gone, will Bubba Biblebelt, the fans they need for long term success, be there for them. Remember, Beatles fans are a LOT different than people whose dream it is to visit Dollywood before they die. People who consider the Grand Old Opry a Mecca of sorts. My only guess is that they are trying to make a jump over to pop with the nude move. ---
**Author:** ![refusal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@refusal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/refusal)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/22 "2003-04-25T13:29:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hajario \* > \*\*It’s about as much like McCarthyism as a five pound bag of onions. How 'bout a cite that shows where the U.S. Government has taken any action against the Chicks. Do you even know what McCarthyism is? > \*\* McCarthyism by most definitions is not just about government action. It includes the blacklisting of people based on leftist political beliefs, as happened in the 1950s in Hollywood. However, what’s happening to the Dixie Chicks is hardly on this scale; only if all the major record labels and stores abided by a decision to blacklist would you have something comparable. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/23 "2003-04-25T13:32:20Z")
All is not as it seems. [Consider]([www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/](http://www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/) editorials/ed0420\_edwards.html ): > [@](#): > > The backlash against the Chicks is spearheaded not by fans, but by Clear Channel Radio, owner of 1,250 radio stations. Clear Channel is based in Texas. Clear Channel loves George W. Bush. Clear Channel would like the administration of George W. Bush to remove all remaining restrictions on the ownership of media properties. That is exactly what the Bush administration is considering. The Federal Communi-cations Commission, chaired by Mike Powell, the son of Secretary of State Colin Powell, is reviewing the last remaining rules restricting media ownership. ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/24 "2003-04-25T13:35:37Z")
Hooray for Dixie Chicks! Thrilled that they haven’t backed down. Even more thrilled that they’re spending more time on politics and les time on music. With any luck, they’ll give up the latter altogether! ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/25 "2003-04-25T13:39:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by watsonwil \* > \*\*My only guess is that they are trying to make a jump over to pop with the nude move. \*\* I read that last word as _movie_, and I was going to beg for a cite. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/26 "2003-04-25T13:44:39Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by gex gex \* Even more thrilled that they’re spending more time on politics and **les** time on music. /QUOTE] (bolding mine) With Melissa Etheridge and kd lang? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/27 "2003-04-25T14:12:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Revtim \* > \*\*I’m sure they airbrushed _the hell_ out the original picture. Isn’t Maines kinda chunky in real life? She looks pretty lean in that pic… \*\* That has _got_ to be a doctored photo. The Natalie in the photo looks 30 lbs lighter! Amazing what you can do w/ Photoshop nowadays… ---
**Author:** ![H8\_2\_W8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c77e96/32.png) [@H8\_2\_W8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H8_2_W8)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/28 "2003-04-25T14:19:39Z")
Photoshopped picture of a Photoshopped picture . . . courtesy of a farker at [fark.com](http://fark.com) [http://www.an00bis.com/fark/DixieChicks.jpg](http://www.an00bis.com/fark/DixieChicks.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/29 "2003-04-25T14:37:39Z")
THis is almost exactly what I posted in another thread, so forgive the redundancy: To those who wonder if the nude photo was doctored, I can tell you this: the Dixie Chicks live near Austin, and (believe it or not) they’re real trivia buffs! I see them semi-regularly at a weekly trivia contest downtown (big disclaimer: I don’t know them, never attempt to talk to them, and am NOT trying to pass myself off as a close friend of theirs; truth to tell, I’m not even a big fan of their music). And I promise you, Natalie is NOT fat, no matter what impression you get on television, and no matter what jokes you hear on TV. And her bandmates are just flat-out SKINNY! I can’t judge whether there was ANY airbrushing, but they’ve told the local Austin paper that, yes, they really WERE naked, and they didn’t just have their heads attached to some models’ bodies. I’m about as far-right as any SDMB regular, and I wasn’t crazy about the WAY Natalie phrased her criticisms of the President… but my superficial impression of the Chicks is that they’re genuinely nice people. Natalie has apologized to the President- not for opposing the war, but for doing it in a crude manner- and that’s good enough for me. It’s probably good enough for most of their fans. ---
**Author:** ![MSU\_1978](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@MSU\_1978](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MSU_1978)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/30 "2003-04-25T16:09:35Z")
The Dixie Chicks certainly have the right to express their opinions, and people certainly have the right to buy their music or tickets or whatever, and they also have the right to boycott them for any reason, including their political statements. What the people don’t have the right to do is to threaten the Dixie Chicks. I’d like to see Bush make a statement like “hey, I don’t like what this girl said but let’s not take it too far. Lay off with the threats, people.” ---
**Author:** ![SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceGhostofArrakis)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/31 "2003-04-25T16:55:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by asterion \* > \*\*The phrase used whenever a third party doesn’t like the actions of a second party regarding the original party in question? \*\* That’s what i thought, but I wasn’t sure… ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/32 "2003-04-25T17:19:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElvisL1ves \* > \*\*All is not as it seems. [Consider]([www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/](http://www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/) editorials/ed0420\_edwards.html ): \*\* But in all fairness, that quote, presented as fact, came from an editorial. ---
**Author:** ![Dogface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Dogface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogface)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/33 "2003-04-25T18:04:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Calliope \* > \*\*Servant, it has and will continue to cost them plenty of money. Many radio stations have stopped playing the Chicks, rallies have been held to bulldoze their cds, and I heard that they are about to lose a lucrative endorsement deal. > > McCarthyism is alive and well. \*\* So, when were there Congressional hearings regarding the Dixie Chicks? Remember, folks, ordinary people **DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITH RICH LIBERAL CELEBRITIES**. Remember that. Say it 100 times every single day. It is the new religion. It shall soon be a felony to refuse to buy Dixie Chicks merchandise. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/34 "2003-04-25T18:04:07Z")
From an interview with Bush by Tom Brokaw (I got this blurb via CNN, though) > [@](#): > > • The Dixie Chicks “can say what they want to say. … And they shouldn’t have their feelings hurt just because some people don’t want to buy their records when they speak out. You know, freedom is a two-way street.” ---
**Author:** ![jaimeshawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jaimeshawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaimeshawn)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/35 "2003-04-25T19:54:44Z")
I went 30 years without watching Hanoi Jane movies; I think I can live without Dixie Chicks CDs. ---
**Author:** ![djbdjb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@djbdjb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djbdjb)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/36 "2003-04-25T20:27:44Z")
I am surprised that none of this recent hullabaloo has prompted people to remember something for which I dislike the DC’s: Their ode to Loretta Bobbit, “Goodbye Earl”. I think there is a prohibition about posting the entire lyrics, but in short Wanda marries Earl, Earl hits Wanda, and Wanda instead of leaving, conspires with Mary Anne to murder Earl. Would it make much of a song if the sexes were reversed? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/37 "2003-04-25T20:43:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by djbdjb \* > \*\* > Would it make much of a song if the sexes were reversed? \*\* Kinda like Guns n Roses’ “I Used to Love Her”? I love that song, and apparently others do to as it still gets radio play around here. And I love “Goodbye Earl.” I mean, they’re just songs. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/38 "2003-04-25T20:44:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by watsonwil \* > But in all fairness, that quote, presented as fact, came from an editorial. But in all fairness, the sentences quoted were factual. I’m sure it’d be trivial for someone to find out whether or not Colin Powell’s son is, in fact, chairman of the FCC, or what Clear Channel’s official position is regarding corporate ownership of media properties. ---
**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/39 "2003-04-25T21:20:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Would it make much of a song if the sexes were reversed? No, it would just be Eminem. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015/40 "2003-04-25T21:31:53Z")
> [@](#): > > The Dixie Chicks “can say what they want to say. … And they shouldn’t have their feelings hurt just because some people don’t want to buy their records when they speak out. You know, freedom is a two-way street.” Did Bush seriously say that? That’s exactly my opinion, and a really good statement of it. I hadn’t heard about the ClearChannel connection, that’s very sinister. The thing is, I didn’t take their comment as an opposition to the war. It was a personal insult against the President, plain and simple. That’s what I think has gotten the ire of so many Bush-supports raised against them. It was a remarkably stupid thing to do, and I’m sure they are sorry that they did it. I fully endorse any actions taken against them by consumers, up to and including boycotting or bulldozing their albums. Mostly I was just glad that it meant the radio stopped playing their godawful Stevie Nicks cover. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dixie-chicks-defiant-naked/171015.md?page=3)