DIY Computer Omnibus Thread. Builds. Upgrades. New Tech. Etc

Looks good! And the performance jump is well worth the effort. Happy gaming!

It’s also very power friendly. When I first built this rig in early 2021, I figured on a 750 watt power supply to leave room for a video card upgrade down the line. For 3 years now it has felt like my PSU was grossly overspecced for a 10400 + 3050 system.

Now with a 4070, that PSU feels just about perfect. So much so that I’m thinking about keeping it for my next build, but maybe not. (A 15600, maybe?) I wouldn’t hate having an ATX 3.0 PSU now that I actually have a video card with one of those fancy new 16-pin connectors.

Look at them chonky heat fins and pipes doing their job :smiley:

Looks great! Glad it worked out even better than hoped!

I’m pretty disappointed with all the issues intel is having with their 13th and 14th gen chips. So much so that it’s no longer fun to daydream about what my next computer will be. (I was waffling between 15600 and 15700.) Granted 15th gen still isn’t out yet, but will they have all those kinks ironed out or will it just be more of the same?

Even if there weren’t problems, the intel philosophy appears to be nothing more than more power!, but I’m a less power kind of guy. I specifically want parts that use less electricity, not more.

So I realized tonight that if I were buying it today, my next computer would be AMD. Specifically, my dream next computer would be:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $384.97 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5 CPU Cooler $63.92 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard $249.99 @ MSI
Memory G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory $99.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (system) $89.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (games) $139.00 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (data & media) $309.99 @ Newegg
*Video Card *Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card *$569.99 @ B&H
Power Supply be quiet! Dark Power 13 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $179.90 @ Newegg
Case Fan be quiet! Silent Wings 4 51.3 CFM 140 mm Fan $23.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan be quiet! Silent Wings 4 51.3 CFM 140 mm Fan $23.90 @ Amazon
Case Fan be quiet! Silent Wings 4 48.7 CFM 120 mm Fan $22.90 @ Newegg
Total Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts $2158.44
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-19 01:59 EDT-0400

*I already own this video card.

The 7800x3D because that is arguably the best gaming CPU on the market today, including intel. Plus it’s like a 90W cpu, less than half the power draw of the 200W+ 14700 when turbo kicks in.

The dark rock pro 5 isn’t a particularly good cooler, but I do like bequiet fans and the 7800x3D doesn’t need much cooling. This is the best bequiet has to offer. If I were going Intel I don’t know what I’d do for a cooler.

MSI Tomahawk because I have a tomahawk (Z490) and really like the build quality. The 670 instead of the 650 so I don’t have to update the bios for the 7800x3D. Also, if the AM5 socket hangs around for a few years, I would be able to upgrade the cpu down the road. In such a scenario I would be glad to have a 670 instead of 650.

Western Digital Black drives instead of Samsung because they’re a little bit faster and a little bit cheaper. Except the 4 TB 2.5" version; Samsung’s pretty cheap in that space. These I will likely buy over time, starting with the 1 TB system drive only. My current computer has drives I can cannibalize to use as placeholders for the rest.

bequiet power supply instead of Seasonic (like my current psu) for a couple reasons. First and foremost, it is slim pickens on the psu tier list if you want Tier A and ATX 3.0, which I do. Second, like I said, I do like bequiet fans.

Three bequiet case fans. My current computer has three Silent Wings 3 case fans, and yes, I would like to upgrade those for Silent Wings 4. This is my daydream, heh.

No case is listed because I plan to just re-use my Define 7 Compact, which I love to death. I might get a pop air or something to move my current computer’s internals over to. Or maybe pick up a mini LGA 1200 board and convert it to a home theater pc.

Why do you want a buy a 4TB SSD for data storage? It doesn’t sound like a performance critical application, so you could save a lot of money with a platter drive. If you’re comfortable spending that much money and you’re going to buy it over time, you may want to bump up to an actual external NAS for better data protection and performance.

Well, given @EllisDee’s priorities, the fact that an SSD has no moving parts and is completely silent may be a factor.

With Newegg running their Fantastech sale and this thread, I started putting together my new build (though I doubt I want a new one enough to actually spend the money).

MSI released a new B650 motherboard last December that puts the wired connections on the back of the motherboard, leaving the front to the CPU/cooler, RAM, PCIe 4, and M.2 connections (with a convenient shield) to keep the ugly at bay. However, the only case I can find that supports back connection is a matching MSI case. I’m always wary of brand new concepts with little market differentiation, but it matches my aesthetic preference of looking cool as shit. There’s also a AIO water cooling system and power supply to match, so the idea of a fully-compatible system out of the box is definitely a pro, as well.

I’m aiming towards a last-gen AMD, for power saving first, and “I like 'em” second. I haven’t built with Intel for years, and I see no reason to change. Throw in 64GB of DDR5, Windows 11, another 2 TB M.2, and ignore the GPU (already have a 3060 which is plenty sufficient), and I’m out the door for about $1100 without actually looking for deals or other suppliers than Newegg. Might even dig in to consolidating drives again.

:triangular_flag_on_post: Marked SAFE from Intel Blue Screens

My processor is an i7-13700 and I changed the voltage settings on it out of the box. Never had any issues after that but the chips using a stupid amount of juice was known back with 13th gen (hence my immediately setting power limits).

That’s not a defense of the shit Intel is going through or a “Well, if I’m not having trouble…” just a side note it’s been smooth sailing for me since then.

I did buy a 4090 (Nvidia FE model) a while back to play more with Stable Diffusion. Works really nice!

Perhaps my hearing is not as sensitive as EllisDee, but I’ve got a stack of 5 external HDDs and they don’t ever make a peep.

Video editing.

My current computer has four drives:

1 TB M.2 system
2 TB M.2 games
2 TB 2.5" SSD data/media
1 TB 2.5" SSD internal backup

Unfortunately all four are filling up. Especially now with my Planet Crafter run, which I am recording in way too high quality. That alone is over half a terabyte. Doh! That’s obviously not a sustainable pace and I’m not sure what I’m going to do about it.

They do make noise. However, who knows. My storage needs may very well end up exceeding what is reasonable for solid state drives.

I have to look at my actual drives tonight. I’ve partitioned and split everything for reasons that made sense at the time, but while the new mobo has two M.2 slots, one is used out of the box for wifi, and there’s room for a 2.5" and a 3.5" or two 2.5" drives. So the current M.2 is probably gonna go, as it’s an early version with not much space compared to current releases. But I think there’s at least three, maybe four, other drives shoved in my current case. Again, generally old, and the 3 TB is an HDD, so updates must occur.

But I’ll be able to control all my LEDs via Alexa, so that’s cool.

Get a NAS!

Yeah I may end up having to. Though the video files I’m working with are 47 gigs each. (And there’s 11 of them!) I don’t know how much I would love working with files that size on spinning platters.

I really, really should have capped my frame rate at 60 FPS instead of 120 FPS when recording. Lesson learned.

The real trick here is to buy that upgrade and then use the old hardware as your NAS PC so you get a crazy high-end NAS for whatever it costs to fill the case/psu/etc.

A NAS can easily saturate a gigabit LAN connection even with HDDs, especially with video files since those will be sustained reads and writes.

If you have a 13th or 14th generation Intel CPU you’re getting 2 extra years of warranty coverage because of the overvolting problem. It’s since been patched, but if your machine was already damaged, the patch won’t fix it, the damage is permanent and those units will need replacing.

There is no recall.

And to cover the costs of replacing the messed up chips, Intel is laying off 15,000 employees. It’s a “tough day for all of us,” says CEO Pat Gelsinger, who was, in fact, not laid off.

This entire debacle is a masterclass in how to trash your company’s entire reputation in a matter of weeks.

The jury is still out on the new-gen AMD chips, but current-gen AMD blows Intel out of the water on power usage and efficiency, while giving up a decent chunk of performance. That said, I’ll take lower heat and noise over bleeding-edge performance any day, even before the self-destruction.

And even in the performance space, if all you care about is gaming, 7800X3D goes toe to toe with the big boys. (Productivity tasks like video rendering is a different story.)

Mostly. Some older but still popular games are so poorly amenable to multithreading that better single-thread performance is an appreciable impact.

But then not everyone is straining to get every FPS out of their hardware, either. At some point, it so radically exceeds human perception that it becomes audiophile oxygen-free virgin copper cables.

What do you all think of this?
Best Buy Gaming Computer

TECHNOID Ultimate Gaming PC - GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 64GB DDR5 - 2TB SSD - Win 11 Pro

Note : That translates from Canadian into $2710 USD.

I am blue (Intel) forever but I get why people prefer AMD; however that means I cannot evaluate that CPU. Case looks great, good CPU cooler and MSI mobos are decent. However I would not get it for myself for two reasons (besides AMD).

  1. It looks like only two RAM slots. I have found that always comes back to bite you in the ass later.
  2. That price is way WAY too high. I could build that rig for $2000 American ducats.