# DNC Cartoon **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 18, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589 "2003-06-18T00:49:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Major\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Major\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/1 "2003-06-18T00:49:13Z")
What does everyone think of this cartoon by the DNC? [http://www.democrats.org/scotus/bushenstein.html](http://www.democrats.org/scotus/bushenstein.html) I am not a fan of Bush, but this just seems like a bad idea. Who are they trying to convince with this? I think it will trun off anyone but a hardline left-winger. ---
**Author:** ![Tekneek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Tekneek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tekneek)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/2 "2003-06-18T01:06:42Z")
Hahah. Funny stuff. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/3 "2003-06-18T01:21:38Z")
Well, I’m not a Democrat, and I’m not a “hardline left-winger,” or much of a liberal at all, really. And I’m certainly no more likely to vote Democrat for seeing that toon. But I find it quite amusing, and fairly accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/4 "2003-06-18T01:21:52Z")
I must say I am totally shocked that the DNC has finally decided to fight back and start telling it like it is. Based on Bush’s nominees for the lower courts, his eventual nominee(s) for the SCOTUS will be truly frightening to civil liberties and human rights, although sadly we won’t realize it until after he or she has been confirmed, because Bush will pick a “stealth” candidate that has left no record behind. JMHO. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/5 "2003-06-18T01:26:34Z")
I saw a clip of it on cable news tonight, it looked awful enough that I don’t care to sit through watching the rest of it. I think this might possibly be the first piece of work that would actually be _better_ if it had been directed by Roger Corman. “HA HA HA, heart? He won’t neeeeeeeeeed any _heart_!!! A-HA-HA!” If this is what Democrats really think of Republicans, then it far exceeds the worst stereotype Rush Limbaugh has advocated to describe any Democrat, ever. Can’t these people just realize that their opposition aren’t nefarious and evil? The opposition thinks their way is right, the parties start with different assumptions about the world and reason their ways to different conclusions, that’s it. Nobody’s evil, at worst you might accuse the opposing party of being “misguided.” I suspect it is this sort of rhetoric, the constant attempt to portray the other party as true evil, that turns many people away from aligning with one of the major parties. ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/6 "2003-06-18T01:31:31Z")
My liberal cousin just sent me the cartoon. No doubt she sent it to others as well. Here’s what I wrote to her > [@](#): > > The animation is cute and effective, but the content is not. The mean-spirited lies and character assassination are worthy of Joseph McCarthy, I’m sorry to say. Just to mention a couple… > > Pickering is a civil rights hero. He was active in promoting racial reconciliation at Ole Miss. He took real risks by fighting the Ku Klux Klan at a time when the Klan was still powerful in Mississippi. That’s why he’s SUPPORTED by the local NAACP, even though they are Democrats. > > Scalia is a conservative Catholic. His daughter was in my daughter’s 4th grade class, the year he taught at Stanford, and she was pulled out of sex education. But, nobody questions that he’s very smart. The “brain of Scalia” is a superior brain. > > The Estrada “secrets” are baloney. Even the liberal Washington Post says so. Estrada served in the Clinton Solicitor General’s office. Most of the people he worked with and for are Democrats. All but one praised him to the skies. Any Democratic Senator who wanted to know about Estrada’s performance could simply ask the Democrats he worked with. > > It’s too bad that the Democrats have stooped so low. ---
**Author:** ![WaryEri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ea666f/32.png) [@WaryEri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WaryEri)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/7 "2003-06-18T01:31:31Z")
The artwork was very pretty, at least. I dunno. I think the point it was trying to make is quite correct, but the way they made it was overly dumbed down. Casting Bush as Frankenstein reminds me a little too much of those commercials pasting politicians in front of French flags to villianize them. Besides, Bush, a brain surgeon? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/8 "2003-06-18T01:32:18Z")
I dunno, it was pretty gripping. I especially liked the part about Public Education collapsing into the rubble. The scary part was thinking about that animation technology falling into the hands of Jack Chick. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/9 "2003-06-18T01:34:50Z")
It rises to the level of the party for which it represents. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/10 "2003-06-18T01:43:32Z")
I am a Democrat. It is colosally stupid. This appeals to the lowest common denominator, the tin-foil hat wearers of the left. ---
**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/11 "2003-06-18T01:50:26Z")
The animation went incredibly slow. If they had sped it up a little I might have watched the whole thing. It was really poorly done from what I saw of it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/12 "2003-06-18T02:00:10Z")
**december** -_My liberal cousin just sent me the cartoon._ Your liberal cousin eh? She own stock in an organic food distributor? 😉 That cartoon was pretty awful. The “no heart” thing you could see coming a mile away. I got the whole joke in the first 5 secs. No need for sitting through all that jilted 70’s-cartoon-spiderman-esque action. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/13 "2003-06-18T03:04:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jackmannii \* > \*\* > The scary part was thinking about that animation technology falling into the hands of Jack Chick. :eek: \*\* Now that you mention Chick, this is almost like his work. Turn the opposition into inhuman villians, make good use of cliches…now all it needs to do is have footnotes at the end of the cartoon referring viewers to DNC publications for the source of their claims. ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/14 "2003-06-18T03:14:15Z")
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: When hyperbole is outlawed, only outlaws will use hyperbole. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/15 "2003-06-18T03:17:58Z")
The cartoon was more pathetic than funny, but cut the Dems some slack. This cartoon is all they have. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/16 "2003-06-18T03:22:03Z")
Enough of these and people will vote for Bush out of sheer annoyance. We Dems won’t win with guff like this. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/17 "2003-06-18T03:22:03Z")
I thought it was funny in an over-the-top way. And I agree that it has absolutely no intention of accurately representing Bush. But he does seem to be picking his nominees, not from ethical conservatives, but from the extreme right. And I assume everyone can grasp the difference I’m drawing there. However, I was glad to see that they did put Scalia’s brain to good use – what he’s done with it recently is a waste of a valuable resource! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/18 "2003-06-18T03:56:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > \*\* > However, I was glad to see that they did put Scalia’s brain to good use – what he’s done with it recently is a waste of a valuable resource! 😉 \*\* Well, he has been big on limiting the runaway extension of the Commerce Clause, which had gotten to include about anything representatives feel like passing to get reelected. I consider that a good use of his brain, though your opinion may vary. His opinions on a few other issues I find myself disagreeing with, but having read many of his decisions (as a law student I do almost nothing _but_ read decisions all day long) I’m not convinced he fits the pigeonhole they place him in. He’s a textualist with regard to interpreting statutes, and I’ve read cases where this leads to the _liberal_ result. I just don’t think Supreme Court justices are as cookie-cutter as politicians are. Especially when the justice in question is a textualist who scorns the use of legislative history and other extraneous evidence in interpretation, because such a justice has alot less wiggle room to adopt spurious reasoning in reaching a desired political result. I think if you read alot of SCOTUS cases, you’ll find that the overwhelming majority of them have no political content at all, and the ones that do don’t always break down along what the casual observer thinks are the liberal/conservative lines. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/19 "2003-06-18T05:10:01Z")
If he’s a textualist on statutes, then why is his take on Constitutional issues so far from textualism? ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/20 "2003-06-18T05:26:02Z")
Re the cartoon: I wasn’t the least bit surprised. I am not a straight ticket voter but I will have to think lonnnnnnnnnnnng and hard about voting for any Democrats in the next election, considering how pathetically childish the DNC has become. Fortunately, OP, I think you’re right. This is just going to turn off voters who are on the fence and maybe even some formerly devoted Democrats. What is the DNC thinking? Are they TRYING to lose in 2004? Why are they shooting themselves in the foot like this? _Surfs on over to the Libertarian website … how YOU doin?_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589.md?page=2)