# DNC Cartoon **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 18, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589 "2003-06-18T00:49:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/41 "2003-06-19T00:32:16Z")
I liked the part where Bush said “Heart? We don’t need a heart!” Then the Justice goes the Supreme Court and starts thumping on the pillers: Civil Liberties BAD! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/42 "2003-06-19T00:51:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Blalron \* > \*\*Well, for one thing there was that woman death row inmate. He mocked her pleas for clemency with an exaggerated “oh, please don’t kill me!” > > [http://www.ccadp.org/bushkills.htm](http://www.ccadp.org/bushkills.htm) \*\* Wow, you’re right. Bush is inhuman for mocking a convicted pick-ax killer. You’ve convinced me. This is really a silly discussion. Go ahead and think that Bush is inhuman if you so wish. And if that get’s you your desired result in the next election, more power to you.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/43 "2003-06-19T01:42:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Wow, you’re right. Bush is inhuman for mocking a convicted pick-ax killer. You’ve convinced me. You think putting someone (admittedly a murderer) to death is a laughing matter. I do not. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/44 "2003-06-19T02:05:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Mace \* > Wow, you’re right. Bush is inhuman for mocking a convicted pick-ax killer. Damn straight he is. If some s.o.b. decided to execute a client of mine and then made fun of the woman’s request for clemency, I’d be sorely tempted to stick a ballpoint pen through his throat. ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/45 "2003-06-19T02:21:41Z")
Maybe SOB #1, the murderer, shouldn’t decide to execute an innocent person. Then they wouldn’t be in the situation they’re in, now would they? ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/46 "2003-06-19T03:00:07Z")
> [@](#): > > “Hey! The Democrats are using the same cheap shots we’ve been using! That’s not fair!” **—rjung** Great summary, **rjung**. Kind of reminds me of that Far Side cartoon when the cowboys are crouched behind their circled wagons while Indians are shooting burning arrows at them. One of the cowboys says to the other, “Hey, they’re lighting their arrows! Can they _do_ that?” Really, this was a political cartoon, and political cartoons have never been tools of fair and even discourse. The very nature of a political cartoon is to prop up one side over another! They _have_ to be partisan! And anyway, why would anyone expect the Democratic National Committee’s web site to be anything _but_ partisan? This cartoon probably won’t convert anyone, but that’s not the point behind all messages. This is more of a rally-the-troops message, and seeing it makes me feel better about being a Democrat, and more likely to spread the word about why it’s important for Democrats to get involved in taking Bush down. If I were to sit idly by and let Bush get another term, then I’d be a lousy American. Challenging Bush is the patriotic thing to do. Got that, choir? Now, go get 'em! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/47 "2003-06-19T03:21:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Mace \* > \*\*Wow, you’re right. Bush is inhuman for mocking a convicted pick-ax killer … \*\* …who was also a woman pleading for her life. Thanks for making clear just how heartless Pubbies generally are. The woman may not have deserved clemency, but publicly mocking her for wanting it … what an **ASSHOLE!** ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/48 "2003-06-19T03:26:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by WaryEri \* > \*\*Besides, Bush, a brain surgeon? \*\* I think this is _way_ funnier than the cartoon. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/49 "2003-06-19T03:39:16Z")
> [@](#): > > The woman may not have deserved clemency, but publicly mocking her for wanting it… **—Evil Captor** Hear, hear! Even if you believe in the ethics of the death penalty, there’s still such a thing as noblesse oblige. Decorum. A show that you’ve got strongly dispassionate feelings toward the way the law is carried out. Obvious glee over the opening of a new city park is one thing; obvious glee over the taking of yet another human life is quite another. Seems there was [another governor](http://www.ccadp.org/pilate.htm) who behaved like this. I want Barabbus. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/50 "2003-06-19T03:42:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SnoopyFan \* > Are they TRYING to lose in 2004? Why are they shooting themselves in the foot like this? [Conpiracy Theorist Hat On] Perhaps they think that Hillary can’t beat Bush. They want her to run in 2008 against a non-incumbant. So sure, they’re trying to lose. [Conspiracy Theorist Hat Off] ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/51 "2003-06-19T03:53:40Z")
Hillary? In 2008? Surely they don’t REALLY think she’d have a snowball’s chance in hell! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/52 "2003-06-19T04:01:34Z")
Frankly, I think tough stuff like this cartoon is just what the Dems need. Trying to take the Pubbie propaganda machine on with sweetness and reason over the last couple of years has been like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Time the Dems whipped out their own guns and started blasting back. I mean, the Dems have lost the Senate, the House and the White House to the Pubbies with that namby-pamby stuff. The Pubbies took THEIR gloves off years ago. It’s past time for the Dems to do the same. ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/53 "2003-06-19T04:07:55Z")
\*\*Trying to take the Pubbie propaganda machine on with sweetness and reason over the last couple of years \*\* _Picks herself up off the floor laughing_ You’re serious? Sweetness and reason? These past 2 years? ON WHAT PLANET?! ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/54 "2003-06-19T06:44:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Evil Captor \* > Thanks for making clear just how heartless Pubbies generally are. The woman may not have deserved clemency, but publicly mocking her for wanting it … Hey, we _are_ talking about the guy who was mugging for the cameras, pumping his fist in the air, and goofing around [right before declaring the start of war](http://www.expatica.com/index.asp?pad=34,368,&item_id=29857) with Iraq on worldwide TV, remember? ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/55 "2003-06-19T08:03:06Z")
The worrying implication at the close is that it’s somehow ‘unAmerican’ to be right-wing. Perhaps the Democrats could initiate a House Committee on such activities. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/56 "2003-06-19T08:08:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by aldiboronti \* > \*\*The worrying implication at the close is that it’s somehow ‘unAmerican’ to be right-wing. > > Perhaps the Democrats could initiate a House Committee on such activities. \*\* Bah, if the right wingers can call people who disagree with them unamerican, so can we! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/57 "2003-06-19T11:15:33Z")
**Bah, if the right wingers can call people who disagree with them unamerican, so can we!** “If they can act like children, we can too!” So basically, if the big mean Republicans are doing something, it gives the Democrats free license to do the same. I guess you’ve really arrived, **Blalron** , when you choose to act as low as you claim your opponents do. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/58 "2003-06-19T11:35:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SnoopyFan \* > \*\ ***Bah, if the right wingers can call people who disagree with them unamerican, so can we!** > > “If they can act like children, we can too!” > > So basically, if the big mean Republicans are doing something, it gives the Democrats free license to do the same. I guess you’ve really arrived, **Blalron** , when you choose to act as low as you claim your opponents do. \*\* Your words would make sense if they were not spoken on behalf of a party that has repeatedly demonstrated their willingness to lie, spread unfounded innuendos, steal elections, make blowjobs a topic of political discourse, and otherwise act like total assholes, a strategy that has clearly worked well for them. I’m not pleased to find the fight sunk to this level, but damned if I think the Dems should let themselves be pushed into political irrelevance because they won’t fight the good fight if it means they have to get in the mud with their opponent. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/59 "2003-06-19T11:53:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*Damn straight he is. If some s.o.b. decided to execute a client of mine and then made fun of the woman’s request for clemency, I’d be sorely tempted to stick a ballpoint pen through his throat. \*\* Gee, **minty** , thanks for clearing up what is inhuman and what is kind, caring, and compassionate. Hurting the feelings of a convicted murderer is inhumane and horrible. Death threats when you lose a case are fine. :rolleyes: Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589/60 "2003-06-19T13:31:54Z")
Look, I’m with you folks if you want to say that calling those who disagree with them unamerican is a Republican tactic. It often is. If the Dems used the same tactic then I think **rjung’s** comments and the far side analogy would make sense. But, I really think that the Dems are the party that uses scare tactics a helluva lot more than the Repubs. Especially with the elderly and Social Security. Of course, I don’t regularly frequent the RNC web site. Maybe they do the same thing all the time. Can anybody link to a cartoon of theirs that is similar? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-cartoon/182589.md?page=4)