# DNC is for smart people only. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 28, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203 "2004-07-28T01:47:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/21 "2004-07-28T04:43:00Z")
**Eddy** , maybe we should try the haiku form: \*All Dems say we’re dumb How dare they paint us this way? Damn their prejudice!\* or… \*Dems act too damn smart There’s one with no such problem Vote George Dubya Bush!\* ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/22 "2004-07-28T05:57:35Z")
Hmmmmmmm… Haiku good. Limerick fun. Sonnet stunning. What about… This is the New Right’s prime evil: The murmuring pundits who yammer “Elitist! Tree-hugger! And we’ve all The moral majority!” Hammer And tongs they go at it, decrying The liberal threat to the nation Of thinking! On reason relying Instead of on fear, consternation And trust in the Bush league to lead us. What else does a patriot require? But Democrats? Think they exceed us. The nerve of them, calling a liar That good ol’ boy, Dubya, who stands up To smartypants donkeys that bray About dumb little details that end up Not being what Powell did say. But hey! What’s it matter, so long as The Right has control of the levers Controlling the power. The wrong ass Will never unseat all us reivers! Well, that did wander some from the “stupid” theme, but it’s way past my bedtime and I refuse to edit the damned thing. Make of it what you will. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/23 "2004-07-28T06:03:50Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > I am one of “the stupid”. The first step is admitting you have a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/24 "2004-07-28T07:07:31Z")
Lovely, **Eddy**. “Reivers”? Did you just make that up to rhyme? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/25 "2004-07-28T07:29:19Z")
Don’t sell yourself short, **New Iskander**. I’m sure there are a lot of Republicans who think you’re stupid, too. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/26 "2004-07-28T07:36:55Z")
> [@skutir](#): > > As Robert Heinlein said, the problem with stupid people is they don’t really believe there’s a such thing as being smart. They think that people just make it up to make them feel stupid. This is BRILLIANT. I’m keepin this one. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/27 "2004-07-28T07:39:03Z")
By and large, absolutely unexpected response. I didn’t dream my rant to be taken as an invitation to a poetry contest. I wonder, was there ever a Pit thread with so many people waxing poetical? Very pleasant surprise. Flattering, actually. That’s what was missing in Boston so far. Those Kerry-Nazis were silencing you, weren’t they, my poor dears? BTW, many thanks to all providing voluntary support to my thesis. Your input is sincerely appreciated, however I hasten to add that in order to assure impartiality and stem the avarice no one should expect to be compensated. Your pleasure is your only reward. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/28 "2004-07-28T07:43:49Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > By and large, absolutely unexpected response. I didn’t dream my rant to be taken as an invitation to a poetry contest. I wonder, was there ever a Pit thread with so many people waxing poetical? Very pleasant surprise. Flattering, actually. Hey, when an Olympic gymnast makes a perfect vault, nobody really cares what views the springboard might be entertaining. Stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/29 "2004-07-28T12:14:44Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > By and large, absolutely unexpected response. I didn’t dream my rant to be taken as an invitation to a poetry contest. I wonder, was there ever a Pit thread with so many people waxing poetical? Very pleasant surprise. Flattering, actually. > > That’s what was missing in Boston so far. Those Kerry-Nazis were silencing you, weren’t they, my poor dears? > > BTW, many thanks to all providing voluntary support to my thesis. Your input is sincerely appreciated, however I hasten to add that in order to assure impartiality and stem the avarice no one should expect to be compensated. Your pleasure is your only reward. Your transmission is garbled. Say again all after “By and large…” Over. Seriously, is all that supposed to make sense? Kerry- Nazi? What on earth is a Kerry-Nazi? What on earth _ARE_ you talking about. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/30 "2004-07-28T12:24:42Z")
Nah, we’re the stupid ones, we keep replying to you. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/31 "2004-07-28T12:53:25Z")
While I think that **New** is, well, utterly stupid, and that **Miller** owes me some paper towels for my monitor, I think the OP kind of has a point. I believe Al Gore lost the election because he was smart, and people didn’t like that. People like my mother, frankly, didn’t trust Gore, because he had the capability of plotting. Nader suffers from this problem, too. Bush, being…Bush… Doesn’t quite have the knack for evil plots, and this may be benefiting our country. Clinton, too, was smart, but he played dumb for the votes. Hopefully this is the same quality that Edwards is bringing to the ticket. This is America, land of the anti-intellectual, and “smart” is a far worse label than “liberal.” As the OP clearly demonstrates. Luckily, Kerry’s not too bright. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/32 "2004-07-28T12:59:01Z")
Republicans will be holding the show in New York City in a few weeks, and they want all Americans to come join them. All except the traitors, that is. I am one of “the traitors”. Many Republicans told me once and again that I am unpatriotic. So they don’t want me. They say that I am unpatriotic because I don’t agree with them. And I don’t agree with them because I am unpatriotic. They say that I am a traitor because I think different. And I think different because I am a traitor. They say that I have committed treason because I am not a Republican. And I am not a Republican because I like to commit treason. So because I am unpatriotic, Republicans don’t want me to join them. And I am not alone. I saw many other “unpatriotic” people rejected and ridiculed by Republicans. It happens even on this Board. Republicans want people to get “patriotic” before they accept them. The only way for us “traitors” to get “patriotic” is to join… Forget it, this is getting tedious. But I’ll end this post with the words of Bill Clinton, who clearly has built an entire political career out of shaming people into voting for him by calling them “stupid”: From [his speech the other night](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/26/dems.clinton.transcript/index.html): > [@](#): > > Democrats and Republicans have very different and deeply felt ideas about what choices we should make. They’re rooted in fundamentally different views of how we should meet our common challenges at home, and how we should play our role in the world… > \ > We Americans must choose for president … we’ve got to choose for president between two strong men who both love their countries, but who have very different world views… I’ve never heard such insulting, totalitarian rhetoric. What a bastard. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/33 "2004-07-28T13:14:42Z")
I have some data that can support the argument put forward in the OP. I am a Democrat and I think you are stupid. I’m willing to put that on a certificate that you can frame. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/34 "2004-07-28T13:17:35Z")
**cuauhtemoc** , agreed. Look, to a lot of Republicans, anyone who isn’t Republican is a tree-hugging, bleeding-heart, unpatriotic, godless _liberal_. Funny how liberal is becoming a dirty word. So, you feel that people make wrong assumptions about you or make foolish, sweeping views about people of a certain political bent. Congratulations. You just managed to do the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/35 "2004-07-28T13:21:49Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Hey, that’s quite the giant effigy you’ve constructed. Too bad it’s made entirely of straw. Hmmmm straw…BURN THE STUPID, BURN THE STUPID, BURN THE STUPID… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/36 "2004-07-28T13:25:30Z")
> [@lambchops](#): > > Lovely, **Eddy**. “Reivers”? Did you just make that up to rhyme? No, I misspelled an [archaic term for those who plunder and pillage](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=reaves). :smack: It should be “reavers”. I told you it was way past my bedtime. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/37 "2004-07-28T13:30:46Z")
> [@lambchops](#): > > Lovely, **Eddy**. “Reivers”? Did you just make that up to rhyme? I’m guessing but it could be **Eddy** is a fan of _Firefly_. Reavers are barbarian like humans that live on the fringe of the universe and wreak havoc and destruction whereever they go. Or he could just have an excellent vocabulary: > [@](#): > > Main Entry: 1reave > Pronunciation: 'rEv > Function: verb > Inflected Form(s): reaved or reft /'reft/; reav·ing > Etymology: Middle English reven, from Old English rEafian; akin to Old High German roubOn to rob, Latin rumpere to break > intransitive senses : PLUNDER, ROB > transitive senses > 1 archaic a (1) : ROB, DESPOIL (2) : to deprive one of b : SEIZE > 2 archaic : to carry or tear away > > - reav·er noun ---
**Author:** ![NotMrKnowItAll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6bbea6/32.png) [@NotMrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotMrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/38 "2004-07-28T13:40:05Z")
Get out of here, he was referring to Faulkner’s [The Reivers](http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~egjbp/faulkner/n-reiv.html) Sheesh. A great, accessible Faulkner book at that. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/39 "2004-07-28T13:48:21Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > BTW, many thanks to all providing voluntary support to my thesis. **"I am going to post in the Pit. I shall start a thread in which I call Democrats elitists. Subsequently, I shall then make several broad and largely incorrect generalisations. But -and here’s the beauty of it- I shall bait my crowd into calling me stupid, by -get this, it’s sheer brilliance- _actually saying I’m stupid about 24.76 times_. If people then take offense at the numerous broad brushes and inaccurate accusations of elitism, and actually conclude that, yes, I am stupid, my thesis has therefor been proven: people who disagree with me (and thus are Democrats) are elitists!"** Uh, yeah, I’d say you’re PLENTY stupid, New Iskander. Jeesh. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/40 "2004-07-28T13:50:00Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > No, I misspelled an [archaic term for those who plunder and pillage](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=reaves). :smack: It should be “reavers”. > > I told you it was way past my bedtime. Actually the spelling was perfectly fine when Faulkener wrote **The Reivers:A Remembrance.** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203.md?page=3)