# DNC is for smart people only.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 28, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203 "2004-07-28T01:47:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/41 "2004-07-28T14:22:07Z")

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How does one say something 24.76 times?

Hmmm, I guess you could say a set of a hunded words 24 times, then on the 25th time stop after the 76th word.

I stand corrected.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/42 "2004-07-28T14:29:16Z")

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I was deliberately being stupid, stoopid. 🙂

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/43 "2004-07-28T14:47:06Z")

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> [@Coldfire](#):
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> I was deliberately being stupid, stoopid. 🙂

How does one spell stupid with a “oo”?

::::d&r::::: 😃

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/44 "2004-07-28T15:02:57Z")

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> [@bizzwire](#):
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> (snipping out stupid stuff)

You know, I quoted the OP and snipped out the stupid stuff. Here’s what I got:

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/45 "2004-07-28T15:31:21Z")

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_Stupyd, Stupyd- not too bright  
In the halls of the Far Right.  
What Stupyd hand or eye,  
Dare frame thy fearful stupydity?_

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/46 "2004-07-28T15:55:15Z")

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Reavers, reivers, yeh, I was thinking of the Faulkner title, but didn’t have the book on hand to check the spelling. Then this morning when I checked my (old-fashioned printed and bound) dictionary I couldn’t find either spelling. Then [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) only had “reave”. Oh, well. Be not bereaved at my bumbling.

Do not go stupid into that dense night!  
Neocons do spin and rave at close of day;  
Rage, rage against the laughter of the bright.

Those wiseguys at Fox News say dark is light.  
Because their words from truth departed, they  
En masse go stupid into that dense night.

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**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/47 "2004-07-28T16:28:02Z")

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I locked myself in my car today. Again.

Anyway, I had some time to think about this while I was driving to the Triple-A for them to get me out. And I decided it would be kind of nice to have the President be a little smarter than me. For a change.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/48 "2004-07-28T16:55:53Z")

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Well, I better not try my hand at poetry.

I think I’d rather perform a dance.

My own version of “Seven Veils”, with a slight modification: instead of uncovering myself, I will be removing shrouds off the inner souls of my Democratic spectators.

Maestro, music, please! (imagine music: rapturous, dangerous, enchanting, pulsating, entrancing, etc.)

First cover coming off (Let the heavy breathing begin) now:

> [@Coldfire](#):
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> I was deliberately being stupid, stoopid. 🙂

No, you are not stupid, please don’t dissemble. I am “stupid”. You are “smart”. That’s why you are trying to distract attention from the long word that I so carefully and laboriously spelled out for you in the beginning, remember: _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an_. The sum of all your responses demonstrates single uniform way of thinking.

Music continues…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/49 "2004-07-28T17:04:17Z")

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Only to you, buckaroo. What it demonstrates is “agreement”, which is in no wise the same as “totalitarian”. That means an _enforced_ agreement.

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**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/50 "2004-07-28T17:08:39Z")

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[QUOTE=New Iskander]  
. . . No, you are not stupid, please don’t dissemble. I am “stupid”. You are “smart”. That’s why you are trying to distract attention from the long word that I so carefully and laboriously spelled out for you in the beginning, remember: _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an_. The sum of all your responses demonstrates single uniform way of thinking… .

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[Inigo Montoya] I do not think that word means what you think it means. [/Inigo]

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/51 "2004-07-28T17:12:52Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> _Don’t be “stupid”, be a “smartie”  
> Come and join the Nazi party?_

Wow, Godwin’s Law in the OP. Is that some kind of record?

Incidentally, why is the second line of your little poem a question? Never mind, it’s probably just because you’re stupid.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/52 "2004-07-28T19:51:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Only to you, buckaroo. What it demonstrates is “agreement”, which is in no wise the same as “totalitarian”. That means an _enforced_ agreement.

Wrong. _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an_ means consensual, passionate, heart-felt absolute agreement, or group-think, brooking no dissent and admitting no opposite view as a “normal” alternative.

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**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/53 "2004-07-28T20:15:02Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Wrong. _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an_ means consensual, passionate, heart-felt absolute agreement, or group-think, brooking no dissent and admitting no opposite view as a “normal” alternative.

Um, no. Totalitarian means “_a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed_” (source - [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com))

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/54 "2004-07-28T20:38:55Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an_ means consensual, passionate, heart-felt absolute agreement, or group-think, brooking no dissent and admitting no opposite view as a “normal” alternative.

You just described the majority of folks who watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/55 "2004-07-28T21:37:48Z")

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> [@Genghis Bob](#):
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> Um, no. Totalitarian means “_a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed_” (source - [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com))

That’s an advanced stage. We are not there yet.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/56 "2004-07-28T21:39:07Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> You just described the majority of folks who watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh.

May be. However, in this thread I’d like to concentrate on _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an Left_.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/57 "2004-07-28T21:46:15Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> I am one of “the stupid”.

Nice to finally get it in writing.

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> Many Democrats told me once and again that I am stupid. So they don’t want me.

Can’t say I blame them, however…

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> They say that I am stupid because I don’t agree with them. And I don’t agree with them because I am stupid.

…are you saying anybody said this at the convention? I’ve watched damn close to the whole thing so far and I failed to notice.

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> They say that I am stupid because I think different. And I think different because I am stupid.

Just for the record, it’s _different **ly** _, fucko.

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> They say that I am stupid because I am not a Democrat. And I am not a Democrat because I am stupid.

You’re stupid because you’re rambling and seem to have trouble with simple concepts. It’s not a political thing.

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> So because I am stupid, Democrats don’t want me to join them.

Suits me fine.

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> And I am not alone. I saw many other “stupid” people rejected and ridiculed by Democrats. It happens even on this Board.

So… people get into heated political disagreements sometimes, and this is the Democrats’ fault somehow? Please.

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> Democrats want people to get “smart” before they accept them.

Not that the Democrats here are unable to criticize their own.

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> The only way for us “stupid” to get “smart” is to join Democrats. And the only way for us “stupid” to join Democrats is to get “smart”.

You must think this is a clever tautology, but it’s actually moronic. Just like the rest of this dumbass post. (Oh no! I’m calling you stupid!)

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> But I have a “stupid” thought again: isn’t that the (please help me with a long word, all together now) To-ta-li-ta-ri-an way?

You shouldn’t use big words if you don’t have a fucking clue what they mean. I makes you sound s-t-u-p-i-d.

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> _Don’t be “stupid”, be a “smartie”  
> Come and join the Nazi party?_

Oh yeah, very Nazi-looking convention so far. Clearly if you don’t like them, they must be Nazis. :wally

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/58 "2004-07-28T22:25:58Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> I’d like to concentrate on _To-ta-li-ta-ri-an Left_

Um … it’s _to-tal-i-tar-i-an_. Stupid. And please get your icky primordial ooze off my jackboots, m’kay?

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/59 "2004-07-28T22:37:44Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Democrats are holding the show in Boston this week, and they want all Americans to come join them. All except the stupid, that is.
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> I am one of “the stupid”.
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> Many Democrats told me once and again that I am stupid. So they don’t want me.
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> They say that I am stupid because I don’t agree with them. And I don’t agree with them because I am stupid.

[The Only Consistent Feature of All of Your Dissatisfying Relationships is You.](http://www.despair.com/demotivators/dysfunction.html)

God I love that site.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-is-for-smart-people-only/257203/60 "2004-07-28T22:50:04Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> That’s an advanced stage. We are not there yet.

Oh, yes. It must be a _rising_ totalitarian left, like a _rising threat_ that we hear about so much lately –rising threats, not being real threats but being conjecturally capable of becoming a threat some time in the unforeseeable future.

You know, there is no pretense to reason in the OP. It is like listening to poor old Bob Dole’s rhetorical cheap shots at the Convention last night. It might have entertained the hell out of Bob but it didn’t make much sense as political thought or comment. So too with our friend – like eavesdropping on the retired bachelor farmers on the bench in front of the pool hall bitching about the communists and Michigan drivers. A rant it is and a rant it will remain, though not a very good one.

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