# DNC servers hacked. Opposition research report on Donald Trump posted online. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 16, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568 "2016-06-16T23:21:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/21 "2016-06-17T00:50:40Z")
Hillary still needs to develop her own message and vision for her Presidency. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/22 "2016-06-17T00:54:44Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Hillary still needs to develop her own message and vision for her Presidency. Sorry I hit submit accidentally. Attacking Trump is only half the battle. Hillary has to win over the public. But, I think she’ll get a lot of “Anyone but Trump” votes. Even if we don’t like her, the alternative is far worse. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/23 "2016-06-17T01:06:13Z")
I’m not sure why her having a plan that assumes the nomination is in the least bit troubling. The goal of the campaign was to get her elected President. Her staff looked at long term planning that assumed the nomination would be won and not just the intermediate goal of winning the nomination. Holy shit, they are competent at their jobs! It’s chaos and mayhem!! Cats sleeping with dogs!!! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/24 "2016-06-17T01:15:10Z")
Well, Clinton doesn’t want people talking about how easily the Russians can hack into an unprotected system, and wondering whether Guccifer is planning an October surprise. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/25 "2016-06-17T01:15:15Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Sorry I hit submit accidentally. > > Attacking Trump is only half the battle. Hillary has to win over the public. But, I think she’ll get a lot of “Anyone but Trump” votes. Even if we don’t like her, the alternative is far worse. Already working on it. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/15/clintons-first-general-election-ad-buy-targets-swing-states/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/15/clintons-first-general-election-ad-buy-targets-swing-states/) > [@](#): > > Two other ads are part of the mix in the eight states, the campaign said Thursday. Neither mentions Trump. Both are soft-edged biographical spots that tell the story of Clinton’s advocacy for children and expanding health care. > > One of the two is a 30-second spot. The other, a one-minute ad, reaches back to highlight Clinton’s early work as a lawyer and first lady in Arkansas, as well as her more recent tenure as U.S. secretary of state. > > “Helping children has been a cause of her life, and it always will be," the narrator says. As posted **Bayard** noted in a different thread: > [@Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/1447): > > Meanwhile, Trump has $2.4 million on hand and can’t spend more till after the convention. So Clinton gets a few weeks to deliver a one-sided beat down, while Trump can apparently no longer rely on an unlimited supply of positive free media coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/26 "2016-06-17T01:23:56Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > … or because they were planning on using scummy tactics. If they wanted to use accusations of atheism as a weapon against Trump, for example. Why would it be “scummy” to point out that The Donald has never been particularly well acquainted with the inside of a church? That’s simply a fact, and one that The Donald has readily admitted to: > [@](#): > > Moderator Frank Luntz asked Trump whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness for his actions. > “I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so,” he said. “I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.” > [@](#): > > Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told reporters Thursday that he attends a church in Manhattan, but the church released a statement saying the real estate developer is not an “active member.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/27 "2016-06-17T01:54:33Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Maybe you won’t be watching this campaign closely but I will. > > It’s going to be fascinating to see how this information is used. The political ads they write. All this information has to be condensed into one or two minute attack ads. > > They’ll spend what? Hundreds of millions on this up coming campaign? The Clinton campaign’s teams of strategists have a lot to decide. How they use this information can easily decide the outcome of the election. It’s almost like you think this is going to be a horserace. Or like you have a vested interest in making it LOOK like it is. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/28 "2016-06-17T02:29:12Z")
One more thing to note about the so called hack, people at ARStechnica are having doubts about it and I spotted a suspicious bit of Russian in place of several links, not a link to a russian site, but the text describing the link was in russian reporting an error, a bad link. I was becoming suspicious when I noted how all the items are not secret at all. My suspicions also arose when the word CONFIDENTIAL appearing in all pages, not even the leaked oppo from Bush against Rubio was given that treatment, it really looks like an attempt at fooling the media. > **[DNC Hacker Releases Trump Oppo Report](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/dnc-hacker-leaks-trump-oppo-report-647293)** > > JUNE 15--An online vandal using the name “Guccifer 2.0” has claimed credit for the recent hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s servers and has provided The Smoking Gun with documents stolen > [@](#): > > Trump Would Rescind Pres. Obama’s Executive Actions On > Immigration. > “ > Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump wants > more than a wall to keep out immigrants living in the country illegally. He > also wants to end ‘birthright citizenship’ for their children, he said Sunday. > And he would rescind Obama administration execut > ive orders on > immigration and toughen deportation, allowing in only ‘the good ones.’” > [Associated Press, > 8/16/15 > ; Meet the Press, NBC, 8/16/15; > Ошибка > ! > Недопустимый > объект > гиперссылки And then I noticed how odd the formatting is, with items in the tables wrapping oddly, if not done amateurishly it points to a document (a pdf no less) that has been tampered with, so even if real, I would have doubts about all other documents this Russian hacker “found” ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/29 "2016-06-17T02:54:58Z")
“Putin uses ‘Troll Army’ to ‘Vote’ in the US Presidential Election; supports a Trump presidency.” - Headlines We’ll Never See ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/30 "2016-06-17T03:00:56Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m providing information. > > It’s pointless for me to go into a long rant against Trump. The report speaks for itself. It’s highly detailed and organized. > > The report is important because it allows the public to get the whole story. Rather than having it presented in attack ads and short sound bites from speeches Hmmm. One might almost conclude they wanted this report leaked, for exactly these reasons. How can we dump 237 pages of dirt on Trump and get people to pay attention? Oh, how about we “leak” it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/31 "2016-06-17T03:42:15Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > On the other hand, it may reveal some dirty laundry the Democrats have been hiding, either of the nobody-mention-the-shallow-grave-in-Hillary’s-garden variety, or because they were planning on using scummy tactics. If they wanted to use accusations of atheism as a weapon against Trump, for example. Opposition research is a standard part of political campaigning, whether it’s used or not. Better to be prepared than not. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/32 "2016-06-17T03:43:43Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Hmmm. One might almost conclude they wanted this report leaked, for exactly these reasons. How can we dump 237 pages of dirt on Trump and get people to pay attention? Oh, how about we “leak” it. Umm hand it to the Washington Post or AP? Don’t tell me you’re buying into Trump’s latest conspiracy claptrap (or is there a new one that I’ve missed since yesterday?). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/33 "2016-06-17T03:53:28Z")
I’ve always found the strategies in campaigning the most interesting element of any election. The punching and counterpunching between the candidates. Sometimes all the planning by the party’s best strategists gets undone by their candidate going off script. I’d love to see the opposition research book on Hillary. It’s probably twice as thick. :D. She has 40 years in politics.  A very long public record to defend ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/34 "2016-06-17T05:04:46Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’ve always found the strategies in campaigning the most interesting element of any election. > > The punching and counterpunching between the candidates. Sometimes all the planning by the party’s best strategists gets undone by their candidate going off script. > > I’d love to see the opposition research book on Hillary. It’s probably twice as thick. :D. She has 40 years in politics. A very long public record to defend Considering that Trump is a sucker for conspiracy theories, that is certain, problem is that unlike the Trump oppo book a lot of the “certain” points Trump will use against Clinton from that research book are beginning to be noticed by the media, and many Republicans even, as being poppycock. BTW it is not just me the one that has noticed that the hack has problems with validation. > **[Gawker May Have Outsourced The Leaked Trump Dossier... to Russians](https://ivn.us/2016/06/16/gawker-may-outsourced-reporting-leaked-trump-dossier-russians)** Not that I agree with all what they noticed. They attempt to avoid one conclusion, that the hacker has invented this if not all documents. It really looks as a stretch to believe that the text got corrupted by Gawker outsourcing it to the Russians, one reason they do not look at the most likely explanation (that the hacker made this document) is that the ones faking it would not do a mistake like that, and yet I do remember how many amateur mistakes made it to the Hitler diaries hoax and the experts also ignored them because they assumed that it was unlikely that a hoaxer would had been that sloppy. We’ll see, but the hacker pointing at the Illuminati (yet another conspiracy theory that I would not be surprised Trump could follow) as the enemy really does not make me confident in anything that the hacker or Russia is releasing. Motherboard reports that while there was a hack made, the documents that are available right now should be looked at with suspicion. > **[‘Guccifer 2.0’ Is Likely a Russian Government Attempt to Cover Up Its Own Hack](https://www.vice.com/en/article/guccifer-20-is-likely-a-russian-government-attempt-to-cover-up-their-own-hack/)** > > The mysterious hacker who claimed responsibility for the hack on the DNC is likely a disinformation campaign by Russian spies. So, unless more evidence comes I do think this document here could be a hoax, or a document that we should not make a judgment about until the unchanged files are posted or investigated more. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/35 "2016-06-17T09:32:48Z")
I’m reading the document right now, and I’ve gotten through about 25 pages. It’s laden with typos and the occasional dropping of entire phrases, but I haven’t yet found a single instance of mistranslation, or anything that gives the impression of non-English idiom. It also looks like it was copied from a file with different formatting; occasionally a hyphen shows up that shouldn’t be there. Or maybe it’s a typo. Also, it looks like there were some phrases that were set up as headings (bolded and all words capitalized) for supporting info to be inserted that wasn’t. Anyway, while this isn’t MLA, and could have seriously benefited from an editor, I don’t find the hoax argument compelling at all. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/36 "2016-06-17T23:44:46Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > I’m not sure why her having a plan that assumes the nomination is in the least bit troubling. The goal of the campaign was to get her elected President. Her staff looked at long term planning that assumed the nomination would be won and not just the intermediate goal of winning the nomination. > > Holy shit, they are competent at their jobs! It’s chaos and mayhem!! Cats sleeping with dogs!!! No, [these were DNC documents](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hacked-dnc-docs-show-ugly-connections-clinton-article-1.2676755), not Clinton campaign documents, and the party is supposed to be neutral as between the candidates until one is nominated. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/37 "2016-06-17T23:56:31Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, [these were DNC documents](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hacked-dnc-docs-show-ugly-connections-clinton-article-1.2676755), not Clinton campaign documents, and the party is supposed to be neutral as between the candidates until one is nominated. It’s an email an un-named person sent to the DNC. Conveniently leaked to you by Russian intelligence. By all means, swallow it whole. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/38 "2016-06-18T00:42:50Z")
Watch out for the vast Democrat conspiracy…to defeat the Republicans! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/39 "2016-06-18T00:44:43Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > It’s an email an un-named person sent to the DNC. Conveniently leaked to you by Russian intelligence. By all means, swallow it whole. :rolleyes: So, what, Russian intelligence wants Trump to win? (I can’t see them getting behind Sanders.) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnc-servers-hacked-opposition-research-report-on-donald-trump-posted-online/757568/40 "2016-06-18T00:45:03Z")
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