# DNFTMFT, KTHX

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 21, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164 "2005-11-21T23:31:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/1 "2005-11-21T23:31:49Z")

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I don’t think I can name any names without violating board policy. In light of recent threads, I would merely like to remind you all that feeding trolls and their socks only contributes to more posting from them and greater annoyance for the rest of us.

Thank you for your time. Report stuff to the mods; it’s what that little button’s there for.

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### Author: ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/2 "2005-11-21T23:36:31Z")

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Can we get a link or something?

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### Author: ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/3 "2005-11-21T23:43:08Z")

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That should be DNFTMFT, KTHX. Dunno if it’s worth a mod’s time to change.

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### Author: ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/4 "2005-11-21T23:47:51Z")

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I’ll second the link nomination.

All those in favour?

😕

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/5 "2005-11-21T23:49:37Z")

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> [@Coin](#):
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> I would merely like to remind you all that feeding trolls and their socks only contributes to more posting from them and greater annoyance for the rest of us.

Thank you so much, Captain Obvious. I’m _so_ glad you’re here to tell us these things.

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### Author: ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/6 "2005-11-21T23:49:37Z")

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I’m going to go ahead and guess that he’s inferring that myself and **Andrew85** are the same, or that one of us is a sock of the other or whatever. Go ahead, say it - and get banned for doing so.

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### Author: ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/7 "2005-11-21T23:53:10Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> Thank you so much, Captain Obvious. I’m _so_ glad you’re here to tell us these things.

You’re quite welcome. It is pretty obvious, isn’t it? But there’s a decent number of posters here who could stand to be reminded.

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### Author: ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/8 "2005-11-21T23:57:54Z")

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> [@Coin](#):
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> That should be DNFTMFT, KTHX. Dunno if it’s worth a mod’s time to change.

I’m afraid to touch it - what if I get a vowel in there by accident?

Title changed.

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### Author: ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/9 "2005-11-22T00:04:33Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> I’m afraid to touch it - what if I get a vowel in there by accident?

Problems with your vowel movements again?

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### Author: ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/10 "2005-11-22T00:14:51Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> I’m going to go ahead and guess that he’s inferring that myself and **Andrew85** are the same,

What you mean to accuse me of is “implying.” Inferring that someone is a sock is hardly punishable, as long as it isn’t implied here on the board.

> [@VCO3](#):
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> or that one of us is a sock of the other or whatever. Go ahead, say it - and get banned for doing so.

You seem like a very combative person.

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### Author: ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/11 "2005-11-22T00:17:34Z")

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> [@Coin](#):
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> That should be DNFTMFT, KTHX.

Shouldn’t it be ZOMGWtFBbQ!!11!1

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### Author: ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/12 "2005-11-22T00:17:51Z")

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**Coin** , my brain is a bit fuzzy this morning.

Could you PLEASE provide a link to what you suggest are the offending posts/threads or whatever. I’m not in cryptic mode just yet.

Thanks heaps.

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### Author: ![Daisy\_Mae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Daisy\_Mae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daisy_Mae)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/13 "2005-11-22T00:19:17Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> Thank you so much, Captain Obvious. I’m _so_ glad you’re here to tell us these things.

Oh yes because they were trying to help you SPECIFICALLY. I mean, that bit of helpful information might not be found on Google.

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### Author: ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/14 "2005-11-22T00:20:11Z")

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Wouldn’t his providing a link move this from cautionary advice thread to X-is-a-troll thread and therefore break board rules?

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### Author: ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/15 "2005-11-22T00:22:13Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Wouldn’t his providing a link move this from cautionary advice thread to X-is-a-troll thread and therefore break board rules?

Exactly. And if it takes you more than 5 seconds to figure out for yourself who I’m talking about, you’re probably not one of the people I was talking to and I apologize for wasting your time.

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### Author: ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/16 "2005-11-22T00:24:24Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> I’m afraid to touch it - what if I get a vowel in there by accident?
> 
> Title changed.

He misspelled the second word anyway. The proper spelling is kkthxbye.

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### Author: ![Amaranta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Amaranta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amaranta)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/17 "2005-11-22T00:25:50Z")

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> [@DeadlyAccurate](#):
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> He misspelled the second word anyway. The proper spelling is kkthxbye.

Isn’t it **kthxbye**?

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/18 "2005-11-22T00:29:10Z")

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> [@Daisy Mae](#):
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> Oh yes because they were trying to help you SPECIFICALLY. I mean, that bit of helpful information might not be found on Google.

Isn’t it hard work twisting words that way? Doesn’t seem worth the effort, if you ask me. Look, if you want to say something to me, just come right out and say it, instead of being a disingenous twat, k? Thanks.

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### Author: ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/19 "2005-11-22T00:37:16Z")

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> [@amaranta](#):
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> Isn’t it **kthxbye**?

No, the extra “k” is necessary to establish your coolness. See, when you need to respond to something with “ok,” it’s too much effort to move your fingers to both letters. So you just hit “kk.” kkthxbye means, “OK, thank you and good bye.” I mean, what’s a single “k” supposed to mean? That’s just silly.

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### Author: ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dnftmft-kthx/332164/20 "2005-11-22T00:42:53Z")

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Ugh. _This_ is why I hate the “no calling people trolls” rule. At what point is an indirect implication of trolling an accuastion of trolling? I’ll say the OP is vague enough not to break the rules, but it is pretty close to the line and had he/she given specific links as examples it would have definitely been over the line.

Here’s my take on it on the trolling rule. A troll is someone who consistently posts false and/or inflammatory posts solely for the sake of getting a reaction. We don’t want people giving trolls any more attention than or getting into heated debates about whether poster X actually believes what he/she is posting. If you have evidence that someone is a troll, please forward it to the mods, either via email or by reporting a post. Do not accuse a specific poster of being a troll on the board.

_However_, many posters mistake idiots for trolls. Just because someone posts seem stupid or provoke a strong reaction doesn’t automatically mean that they are a troll. They may be sincere, but just stupid. Willful ignorance or excessive inflammatory posting past a certain point may lead to a banning, but it does not automatically constitute trolling. You may accuse poster X of starting a lot of attention getting threads and suggesting that nothing constructive can be gained from replying to them if he/she has demonstrated that they are immune to logic and reason. You may call poster X an idiot, or an attention whore, or a dickhead. Please don’t call them a troll, though, as that causes problems.

Sound sort of arbitrary? You’re not going to get an argument from me. However, we have to draw the line somewhere, and that’s where I think it is.

What does that mean for this thread? Simple. You may not give links or names of people you believe to be trolls according to my definition of troll. You may provide links/examples of people you believe to be idiots, hopeless, not worth one’s attention, etc. so long as you don’t call them trolls. If this ruling is found to be unclear or unworkable, we can fight about it and then I’ll probably change it. Let’s see how it goes.

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