# Do all Star Trek ships go through the same thing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 14, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149 "2004-02-14T02:48:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/41 "2004-02-15T00:39:00Z")
> [@BraheSilver](#): > > … All we know is that in the future, there will be robots and tight pants and lasers. This would make a great sig line. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/42 "2004-02-15T00:45:25Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Yipper, I’m a wanted man. I have the death penalty in 7 systems! Yeah, but five of those are Klingon. Who \*don’t \* they want dead? ---
**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/43 "2004-02-15T00:48:12Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > This would make a great sig line. It would, if it wasn’t a line stolen from GTA: Vice City. If you want to sig it go right ahead, but it isn’t exactly original. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/44 "2004-02-15T00:53:19Z")
> [@BraheSilver](#): > > It would, if it wasn’t a line stolen from GTA: Vice City. If you want to sig it go right ahead, but it isn’t exactly original. No, it was just an idle observation. ---
**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/45 "2004-02-15T01:02:59Z")
Aw. There’s only one Doper out there using something I’ve said as a sig line, and it’s me making an ass out of myself. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/46 "2004-02-15T01:08:31Z")
I’m actually in the market for a new sig, but I think I want something a little more, I don’t know, general. I’ll know it when I see it. (Goes off to find the Doper with the sig of **BraheSilver** making an ass of himself) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/47 "2004-02-15T01:11:12Z")
I’m in at least two. Three, usually, but \*\*vivalostwages \*\* changes her .sig so often that I don’t know if I’m in the current one or not. ph34r m3. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/48 "2004-02-15T01:38:48Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > ph34r m3. I keep a ph34r-cutting ph34r around for just such an emergency. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/49 "2004-02-15T05:46:20Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > I’m in at least two. Three, usually, but \*\*vivalostwages \*\* changes her .sig so often that I don’t know if I’m in the current one or not. ph34r m3. Not right now, but when I tire of it, I’ll putcha right back in along with our **CogenitorBoy**. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/50 "2004-02-15T07:57:11Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Would you rather them have taken a defenseless and slow \*Oberth \* class vessel I’ll have you know, **Aesiron** , that because of this post of yours, I had to haul out my DVD of _Star Trek III: The Search for Spock_ and poke around in it to find out what the heck an “_Oberth_-class vessel” was. (The U.S.S. Grissom, which investigated the Genesis Planet under the command of Captain Cover-Your-Ass, was I believe the first _Oberth_-class vessel to appear in any _Star Trek_ movie or show. How the class came to be known as the Oberth class and not the Grissom class, I have no idea. Although I’m sure that some fanboy/fangirl/fanJ’naii will come along any time now to fill in that particular blank.) ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/51 "2004-02-15T08:06:06Z")
It’s not a common ship type at all. Other than its appearance in _Star Trek III_, I think it only showed up in \*TNG \* a handful of times. It was just one of a about a dozen starship classes that Starfleet had which I memorized until _First Contact_ was released and with it, three dozen more starship classes (Akira, Steamrunner, Centaur, Sovereign, etc) that I’ve not bothered learning yet. ---
**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/52 "2004-02-15T08:14:40Z")
> [@BraheSilver](#): > > Aw. There’s only one Doper out there using something I’ve said as a sig line, and it’s me making an ass out of myself. That would make a great sig line! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/53 "2004-02-15T08:16:28Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > You had _TUD_. _The Unintelligible Darmok_? Aesiron and The Long Road at the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/54 "2004-02-15T08:21:50Z")
> [@Pushkin](#): > > Many Starfleet vessels are destroyed or lost in The Original Series. \ > Charlie destroyed one by telekenesis, > \ [Geek hat on] _S.S. Antares_ was not a Constitution class vessel, it was a smaller ship, as evidenced by the “S.S.” when (at the time, TOS, 1st season) starships were designated “U.S.S.” [Geek hat off] ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/55 "2004-02-15T08:27:30Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Other than [the Oberth class’s] appearance in _Star Trek III_, I think it only showed up in _TNG_ a handful of times. Yeah, but it was also one of the only 3 starship types you got to choose from in the _Starfleet Academy Cadet Briefing_ PC game. Which is the first (and thus far, only) place I’ve seen it referred to by name as the Oberth class. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/56 "2004-02-15T08:50:11Z")
I own Mr Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise, the DS9 Technical Manual, the TNG Technical Manual, the TNG Companion, almost every Star Trek: The Communicator published, and about 300 Pocket Book novels. They were mentioned a few times in those publications. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/57 "2004-02-15T13:52:52Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s The Undiscovered Country or TUC. You had TUD. Damn again. I’ll just sit over here in the corner and keep my mouth shut. :o ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/58 "2004-02-15T14:49:06Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > [Geek hat on] > > _S.S. Antares_ was not a Constitution class vessel, it was a smaller ship, as evidenced by the “S.S.” when (at the time, TOS, 1st season) starships were designated “U.S.S.” > > [Geek hat off] [Swipes Weirddave’s Geek hat off, tramples it into the ground] Ahem, **U.S.S.** Antares was a Starfleet vessel as shown by its U.S.S. designation. And like I said, all the ships I _named_ were Constitution class vessels, as shown in either the Star Trek encyclopedia or on my VHS collection. [Realises the futility of violence, picks up WD’s hat, brushes it off and replaces it] ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/59 "2004-02-15T15:27:52Z")
> [@Pushkin](#): > > [Swipes Weirddave’s Geek hat off, tramples it into the ground] > > Ahem, **U.S.S.** Antares was a Starfleet vessel as shown by its U.S.S. designation. And like I said, all the ships I _named_ were Constitution class vessels, as shown in either the Star Trek encyclopedia or on my VHS collection. > > [Realises the futility of violence, picks up WD’s hat, brushes it off and replaces it] Hey! gimmie back my hat! The _first line_ of the episode is “Now manuvering to come alongside cargo vessel _Antares_” Is that what you think Constitution class ships are? Cargo vessels? Maybe a garbage scow? Maybe you think it should be hauled away as garbage, huh? Seriously, I just watched it and that’s the first line of the episode. [This](http://www.trekships.org/antares.htm) site bears me out in a lot more detail. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149/60 "2004-02-15T16:12:49Z")
> [@The Long Road](#): > > you shouldn’t have started throwing all the nerdy BS into the discussion. The last think I do is go out of my way to have anything to do with you and people like you. Um, **Long Road**? If you don’t want anything to do with “people like” **Aesiron** , I suggest you stop opening Star Trek-related threads. In any case, please stop POSTING in Star Trek-related threads. People enjoy these things, and don’t need to be called “nerds” whilst they do so. – Ukulele Ike, Cafe Society moderator. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-all-star-trek-ships-go-through-the-same-thing/229149.md?page=4)