Do all Star Trek ships go through the same thing?

Many Starfleet vessels are destroyed or lost in The Original Series. The M-5 computer destroyed one, the USS Excalibur, during war games, The USS Defiant was shifted out of our universe near Tholian space, Charlie destroyed one by telekenesis, Kirk’s space amoeba ate one full of Vulcans, USS Intrepid, the Planet Killer ate another, the USS Constellation and there are all the previously lost vessels from before Kirk’s time. A heavy toll, especially when all the named vessels are Constitution class, Starfleet’s frontline vessels. It can only be assumed that other races lose as many, or else the Federation would be overrun quite rapidly :slight_smile:

Vessels are usually armed with most fire power concentrated at the front of the vessel. So when two opponents meet each other it must be face to face to ensure noone is vunerable. And I guess looking at a ship at a funny angle must be disorientating so everyone meets orientated to face each other. My Treksplanation for ya :slight_smile:

It’s because the other ships are out cataloging gaseous anomalies.

(That always bugged me about ST:TUD. Sulu’s ship Excelsior was the one coming back from cataloging gaseous anomalies, yet to destroy the cloaked Klingon ship Uhura suggested they rig a torpedo since they had all that equipment to catalog gaseous anomalies on board. Hello, the Enterprise wasn’t doing that, it was Excelsior!)

Dammit.

I dangled my participle or split my infinitive or something. I’m always doing that.

Equipment on board to catalog gaseous anomalies is what I meant. Although when Kirk or Archer get going sometimes, there could be some gaseous anomalies on board…

And just what do you think Sulu was growing in the hydroponics bay in The Man Trap, hmmm?

Which brings us to the “Why do they have one of their best ships off cataloging gaseous anomalies? Don’t they have less important ships for that?” questions. This would be like the Pentagon sending the carrier group Enterprise off to check out a thunderstorm.

Star Trek: The Uhura Dialogs ?

The Undiscovered Country.

Or is it just Undiscovered Country?

What more do you need to know? That’s reason enough for me!

I do believe Enterprise has had a few encounters where they show some ships orienting themselves so that they come together, face to face. Maybe it’s a holdover from this era where they have to be aligned to dock since transporters aren’t effective yet?

Starfleet is a military institution but it’s an exploaration arm of the Federation first and foremost. Would you rather them have taken a defenseless and slow *Oberth * class vessel to a region of space so close to the Klingon homeworld that they could feel the subspace shockwave from Praxis’ explosion or a science vessel that doubles as a battleship?

It’s The Undiscovered Country or TUC. You had TUD. The Unintelligible Darmok?

I actually have a good reason as to why ships are always (or, almost always) orientated in the same direction. Our galaxy is a disc shape. And while it is 3-D, it’s length and width are much greate than it’s height, so it can appear more liek a 2-D flat surface. So, thefore, it is logical to assume that the ships orientate themselves so that their top is the same as the galaxy’s top, so to speak.

I was typing up a nice reply to this but then I realized your post is so goddamn nerdy I can’t bring myself to put anything objective down.

Have a great weekend.

I entertain myself by watching Star Trek whereas you amuse yourself by pestering me and people like me. I might be nerdy but your behaviour is just pathetic.

Maybe it really is supposed to be abbreviated “TUD”.

Sorta like how Phencyclidine is abbreviated “PCP”, even though there’s only one “P” in Phencyclidine.

[J.T. Kirk]
We… meanyouno… harm. Please take this post as a… message… of good willandpeace, from… our… nerdy realm…to… yours. We hope that… someday… your people and ours can live… in peaceful coexistance… but until that… day… Mr. Scott, fire phasers!
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The only time you hear about another starship doing anything interesting is when something goes horribly awry.

Like the USS Pegasus in the TNG ep “The Pegasus” in which a phased claoking device was being tested.

You’re the one commenting on the “defenseless and slow Oberth class vessel”. I’m not pesting you. You don’t like it, you shouldn’t have started throwing all the nerdy BS into the discussion. The last think I do is go out of my way to have anything to do with you and people like you.

You wanna use my disrupter, Aes?

Or would a phaser cutting phaser be the weapon of choice for this duel?

You’re the one who asked the question about “one of the fleet’s best ships” so it was you, not me, that started the “nerdy BS” by qualifying the Excelsior, a ***fictional ** * vessel, as the premier ship of Starfleet by comparing it to the US Navy’s Enterprise.

What is it that you expect when you come into a thread wherein the OP is asking questions about Star Trek? A discussion about the Super Bowl, Janet Jackson’s breast, and all things “macho”? We know we’re nerds and most of us, myself included, revel in our nerdiness and we don’t need people like you commenting to our discussions to tell us what we already know.

Also, can you tell me how it is you’re “avoiding people like me” when this is at least the second thread in as many weeks where you’ve posted only to trash the series? If this is avoidance, you must never leave your friends’ sights.

Forget the hand weapons. Ready a full spread of Quantum torpedoes!

(Or plain old Photon torpedoes, if we’re talking about the Enterprise-D or earlier. Or the Enterprise-E in Nemesis. Geez, did Bermanaga completely forget about Quantum torpedoes after First Contact?!)

Do you still have your Vorlon T disruptor, NCB?

And tracer, they probably just didn’t have a compliment aboard after using them all in some offscreen altercation or somethin’. Most ships carry both photorps and quantums too. The latter has a higher yield and causes more destruction so photons are kept around for more “delicate” uses.

Yipper, I’m a wanted man. I have the death penalty in 7 systems!