Um, Long Road? If you don’t want anything to do with “people like” Aesiron, I suggest you stop opening Star Trek-related threads.
In any case, please stop POSTING in Star Trek-related threads. People enjoy these things, and don’t need to be called “nerds” whilst they do so.
– Ukulele Ike, Cafe Society moderator.
Sigh
[Removes WD’s hat once again]
In my post I said “A heavy toll, especially when all the named vessels are Constitution class.” I never named the Antares, so therefore I didn’t say in any way it was Constitution class.
Wait, either I’m confused, or you’re weaseling in a brilliant manner. Which is it?
For Trek Dopers, the proper term would be “Wesleying.”
According to The Star Trek Encyclopedia (page 14), the U.S.S. Antares was a Federation science vessel comanded by Captain Ramart, destroyed in 2266 by the enhanced human Robert Walker, Jr. I mean, Charlie Evans, playing himself. Yeah, that’s it.
In TNG’s Ensign Ro, Bajoran cargo ships are called Antares class, simply a TNG geek tip of the hat to TOS, nothing more.
On page 322, a discussion of Oberth class starships suggests there was an un-episoded* U.S.S. Oberth from which the Grissom, Vico, and Tsiolkovsky got their class name.
That is all.
*verbing
Verbing weirds the language.
Oh, yeah. I have that book too.
But Aesiron, you still haven’t told us which edition of the Star Trek Encyclopedia you have. It was updated and expanded in 1999, you know.
And you haven’t even mentioned the Star Trek Chronology yet!
I’ve owned both but sold the original when the revised edition was released. No *Chronology * for me either. I beleive I own “The Captain’s Logs” for TNG, DS9, and VOY unless I sold them to move here though… I can’t remember.
Whenever I get a job and a place of my own, getting my books here and buidling it back up will be one of my top priorities.
Well I am brilliant 
but not a weasel. I said that the ships who’s names I gave were all Constitution class, I either got this from watching eps on my VHS collection, or the Trek Encyclopedia. I didn’t give the name of the ship Charlie destroyed, so therefore I was not indicating that it was a Connie class. Ok? 
And I looked into this only because someone on a Trek board suggested that there was mention somewhere of the Connie class having only 6 ships. Since I found 4 ships destroyed at least, three others were seen in the war games alongside the Excalibur, there’s the Enterprise herself and in Trek fashion there must be at least a ship named after the class itself USS Constitution, there must be more than 6 Connie class vessels in the Federation. Still, a lot of frontline vessels to lose outside of wartime. And you can keep the hat on your head, suits you sir 
Trek lore has it that the first ship of any class takes the name of that class like the first Excelsior class vessel NXX whatever was called the Excelsior. So presumably there exists, somewhere else, a U.S.S. Oberth. We can assume that the first showing of this ship is not necessarily because it is the first of its kind
There wer 12 Constitution class starships. And the NX rule has been invalidated by the first warp 5 cpable starship, the NX Class Enterprise.
Yeah, but an Imperial Star Destroyer could so totally waste a Connie.
An SW Courier ship crewed by Pakleds could probably destroy a Constitution Class starship unless Kirk happened to tear his shirt sometime during the battle. Then it’s gonna be on like neckbone.*
*I don’t actually speak like that. It’s just a reference to another fandom of mine. A decanter of Romulan Ale to the first person to tell me where it’s from.
You know so well that if you posted that on a Trek board there would be screams of “NOT CANON” and much blood letting between fans of the old and new before the Mods step in. Lets just say that Enterprise did not invalidate that view, merely that Star Trek III created it, preserving Canon for all eternity
For the sake of dignity I will not go there, excpet to say that a Connie using touch and go downwarping would fool the non-lightspeed sensor array of the ISD, destroying its very exposed shield generators, leaving the bridge and engines at the mercy of a volley of torpedoes. Face it, they’re toast
True, I forgot to take into consideration that the Excelsior example changes the practice since it occurs at a later date. It’s just a glaring example that not everything follows formula and one I hate as much as any Trekkie BBSer. I just don’t get quite as caught up in my fandom as they do… I like being able to laugh at it as much as I praise it.
Besides, everyone knows the Prometheus and Defiant class ships are the true badasses of the fleet. Especially the former. Three warp cabable battleships in one? Ha! The Empire wouldn’t know what hit them.
Oh, but Darth Vader would be all, like, “You are my son, Kirk” and he’d scream “KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN” and the whole throat-clutching Force thing with the pain and the hurting and the glaiven!
No, seriously. 
I guess somebody has to haul ore around and such. Although those episodes might not be as popular. . .
Stardate 5235.7 Hauling ore to the Trebleth system. One of the crew received a painful charley horse, due to the poor Starfleet railing design. Oh, and a random EPS conduit exploded when someone sneezed on it. Other then that, nothing happened during our two weeks trip from Nepenthe 6.
Probably not good TV- be like watching C-Span in Space.
I have no idea what “touch and go downwarping” is, but whatever it is, the Constitution class heavy cruiser would not need it.
The ISD has no weapons that move faster than light. Nor can the ISD fight while moving faster than light. All the Connie has to do is back up at warp 1.1 and lob photon torpedoes (which also travel at warp speed) at the ISD until it blows up.
Sure, the ISD might be able to execute a few well-timed “hyperspace microjumps” to appear in the path of the Connie and put its slower-than-light weapons fire right where the Connie will be – assuming the ISD’s sensors can even detect a starship travelling faster-than-light – but the Connie could overcome that with continuous small, random changes to its course.
This is making me nostalgic for the old SW vs ST threads. When was the last time we had one? I think it’s time for another.
Naw, let’s not. If we did, SPOOFE would just wander in and say “If they never showed Captain Picard doing it, then the Enterprise can’t do it” – while conveniently ignoring this same admonition for the Star Destroyer’s captain.
Too late. It already has about seven posts.